Schiit Yggdrasil Impressions thread
Jul 24, 2015 at 1:28 PM Post #466 of 12,389
When listening to a piano & bass jazz track with the yggy:
At first I thought someone was in the kitchen , as I heard some plates being handled in the distance,
About 25feet away on my left side(!) which was where my kitchen was located.

Can you share which recording & track?  I'd love to try this on my system.
 
Jul 24, 2015 at 5:26 PM Post #467 of 12,389
When listening to a piano

Can you share which recording & track?  I'd love to try this on my system.

Of course
:)
Bebo Valdes & JavierColina - Live at the Village Vanguard 2007 flac.
Track : Bilongo

Ambiance is airy and lively, not be dark or small.
More like a reception hall type open air club.

Search for the plates :) :
3:36 in= far left side distant plate
3:44 in= right side close
4:18 = left side.
5:10= right center gathering wine glasses.
times are approximate.

There is more nuances here and there & the other tracks(like "Con Poco Coco" track kitchen is herd left side) , but those marks should suffice.
:)
 
Jul 28, 2015 at 7:54 PM Post #468 of 12,389
Does anyone know what is going on over at Schiit ?

end of June , second week of July , end of July , now third week of August .

Those have been the delivery dates thus far .

I appreciate Schiit giving me updates but man don't they know their suppliers ?
 
Jul 28, 2015 at 8:01 PM Post #469 of 12,389
Does anyone know what is going on over at Schiit ?

end of June , second week of July , end of July , now third week of August .

Those have been the delivery dates thus far .

I appreciate Schiit giving me updates but man don't they know their suppliers ?



Schiit Fanboy : stop complaining you piece of Schiit . Be thankful you can purchase Schiit gear!!!
The one and only true audiophile equipment !! All hail Schiit and the Norse Gods .

You ungrateful little sniveling twit ! You will be cursed by the Norse Gods for eternity !!
 
Jul 28, 2015 at 8:08 PM Post #470 of 12,389
Does anyone know what is going on over at Schiit ?

end of June , second week of July , end of July , now third week of August .

Those have been the delivery dates thus far .

I appreciate Schiit giving me updates but man don't they know their suppliers ?



I actually wanted my Yggd delayed as I wanted to save a bit more cash. Mine was supposed to be shipped the end of July and got it the end of may.
 
Jul 28, 2015 at 9:07 PM Post #472 of 12,389
Does anyone know what is going on over at Schiit ?

end of June , second week of July , end of July , now third week of August .

Those have been the delivery dates thus far .

I appreciate Schiit giving me updates but man don't they know their suppliers ?


I am not the "fanboy" in your fictional dialogue, but it appears they indeed are having difficulty sourcing the chips, which are rare.
 
Jul 29, 2015 at 1:30 AM Post #474 of 12,389
I hope they aren't on backorder by the time I want to get one! Building these intricate machines probably takes a while, and getting all the pieces.. I understand why some companies like the idea of being a monopoly
 
Jul 29, 2015 at 5:58 AM Post #477 of 12,389
I know the Lampi is an expensive brand, maybe overpriced like Ultrasone,
and also maybe not well recieved because of that,
but the fact remains that it is a very good sounding dac.
I havent heard enough dacs, but I would place it very close to yggy and above all the others I have heard.
The accuracy/detail is almost on par and the soundstage is not as wide, but it has a very musical sound with good hieght & depth and also a bit more blacker background and a bit more louder/dynamics like a more balanced schitt Gungnir yet more detail than that or Master7..
Very beautiful sound as opposed to yggy very accurate sound.
Both have high realism factor..
 
Jul 29, 2015 at 6:33 AM Post #478 of 12,389
Quote:
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but about grey backgrounds and flatness, could anyone expand on that + ...

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In regards to comments of the Yggy having a "grey" background, chalk that up to real 21 bit resolution. There is just more low level info to hear -if your gear is up to reproducing it...

That is well said and what I believe is going on...

I have found this issue of a "grey" background at times decieving...

As I notice THREE occurances happening in yggy that I have observed which can alude to this:

1- lack of background blackeness at times due to yggy replicating the source background "micro plankton" ambient info that fills this space.

2- It has been said that the choice of discrete components in yggy buffer stage,
may introduce a type of "mosfet mist", if your system is resolving enough to notice.

3-In comparison with other dacs.
There is a "fake" blackness presented by them,
because they are not as resolving as yggy of low level detail.
So a more forward dynamic presentation may be noticed in their blacker background.

The dacs that I have personally herd recently (Master7, Lampi5&7, LIO) all vary in their own soundstage presentation,
because they do not all decifer low level detailing at same level, or same way.

These details that the yggy portrays, which makes it obviously more realistic,
also comes across at times, less forward with less contrast as a result.

So in comparison, some may percieve the yggy sound hits a "wall" in background, or not as dynamic (grey background).

Yet all the other dacs sounded closer, and none were as wide as the yggy.

The attributes of those other dacs, contribute to making the instruments pop out more in a blackness of (missing) empty space,
wich in turn is percieved as a lively & dynamic sound...
Untill you hear the missing information, realisticly portrayed when listening thru the yggy.
It is more of an "air" or soundstage area "presence" type of difference, so you are more aware of where the event took place.

Also, to keep in perspective, the performance of the other dacs were at a high level.
So it "can" still become a matter of preference..

A choice of signature, or sonic attributes(in others),
Over "absolute" resolution(in yggy)..
Both paths are musical, just one is more real.

This is what all the nit-picking about the "greyness" is all about.
Personally, I think it is more important to realize where the yggy stands...
In another league.


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Jul 29, 2015 at 7:12 AM Post #479 of 12,389
I have a few questions for you.
 
1.  How do you know accuracy when you hear it or what DAC is most accurate?
 
2.  How do you know the source background is not pitch black? 
 
3.  How do you know the grayish background of the Yggdrasil is not a flaw?
 
4.  What makes you say other DACs have a "fake" blackness about them? 
 
5.  How do you support the idea the Yggdrasil resolves better than other DACs? Or the Yggdrasil has "absolute" resolution as you say?
 
6.  You say "Untill you hear the missing information"  How do you know what information is missing?
 
You make a lot of claims alluding to the Yggdrasil as being the best DAC there is.  There's faults in all DACs, surly you can find one in the Yggdrasil. 
 
I like the Yggdrasil and plan on getting another soon.  However, I know it's not the best DAC in the world.
 
Jul 29, 2015 at 8:05 AM Post #480 of 12,389
I have a few questions for you.

1.  How do you know accuracy when you hear it or what DAC is most accurate?

2.  How do you know the source background is not pitch black? 

3.  How do you know the grayish background of the Yggdrasil is not a flaw?

4.  What makes you say other DACs have a "fake" blackness about them? 

5.  How do you support the idea the Yggdrasil resolves better than other DACs? Or the Yggdrasil has [COLOR=0000FF]"absolute" resolution[/COLOR] as you say?

6.  You say [COLOR=0000FF]"Untill you hear the missing information"[/COLOR]  How do you know what information is missing?

You make a lot of claims alluding to the Yggdrasil as being the best DAC there is.  There's faults in all DACs, surly you can find one in the Yggdrasil. 

I like the Yggdrasil and plan on getting another soon.  However, I know it's not the best DAC in the world.

You have mocked the Norse Gods! Lol.
 

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