Schiit Valhalla Tube Rolling thread.

Jan 23, 2023 at 1:23 PM Post #2,431 of 2,790
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You can definitely check older posts... there's LOTS of info regarding rolling ! :) But yeah, I got my adapters from https://pulsetubestore.com/ great service! highly recommended! :)

From "my" perspective, it opened up a bit the soundstage. But I'll be honest. it's subtle. My equipment (or a combo with my ears), it won't resolve THAT well for me to be like a HUGE day to night difference.

From the aesthetics tho, I really like the brief "flash" when I turn on the amp. :)
Thanks for the link!

My Valhalla II does double duty as a headphone amp and as a pre-amp in my stereo, so small sonic changes are really noticeable when listening through speakers.

I'd like to find a tube that's not too expensive, but sounds at least as good as the stock pre-amp tubes.
I've seen one or two people recommend the JJ gold pins, which may be worth a try, but $75 for two current production tubes is not much of a bargain.
 
Jan 23, 2023 at 2:34 PM Post #2,432 of 2,790
…as long as that flash stays brief…😳F2D5E828-97D1-4D91-919B-F95481436DDE.jpeg you don’t want an ‘amplifire’…🤣
Not interested in amplifires at all... :) Knock on wood! As far as I know, the flash helps with the heating up... not sure exactly the physics behind, but it does look cool :) and if that goes with a good sound... I cannot complain!
 
Jan 23, 2023 at 2:46 PM Post #2,433 of 2,790
Thanks for the link!

My Valhalla II does double duty as a headphone amp and as a pre-amp in my stereo, so small sonic changes are really noticeable when listening through speakers.

I'd like to find a tube that's not too expensive, but sounds at least as good as the stock pre-amp tubes.
I've seen one or two people recommend the JJ gold pins, which may be worth a try, but $75 for two current production tubes is not much of a bargain.
Hmmm, you'll need a one time adapter for those... but if you're into checking out "NOS", these guys are quite awesome for their price:
https://www.thetubestore.com/rft-ecc81-12at7
 
Jan 23, 2023 at 3:05 PM Post #2,434 of 2,790
• I highly recommend the RFT ECC81 (European classification of 12AT7) tubes.
• There are two variants: halo getters and foil getters. These are inside the tubes towards the top where the silvery plating is. They are as described. As wonderful as the ‘halo’ RFTs sound, the ‘foil’ RFTs are even better.
• I use (roll) / have used (rolled) the RFTs, with and without adapters, in a number of tube headphone amplifiers. See ‘signature’. Immensely musical sound from RFTs! Plus, the RFTs do not cost 💪 and 🦵.
 
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Jan 23, 2023 at 7:30 PM Post #2,435 of 2,790
• I highly recommend the RFT ECC81 (European classification of 12AT7) tubes.
• There are two variants: halo getters and foil getters. These are inside the tubes towards the top where the silvery plating is. They are as described. As wonderful as the ‘halo’ RFTs sound, the ‘foil’ RFTs are even better.
• I use (roll) / have used (rolled) the RFTs, with and without adapters, in a number of tube headphone amplifiers. See ‘signature’. Immensely musical sound from RFTs! Plus, the RFTs do not cost 💪 and 🦵.
Thanks for the recommendation!

Multiple people recommending the same tube is definitely encouraging.

How do you go about finding a pair with the "foil" getters?
(most places that sell them don't show the getters)

Thanks!
 
Jan 23, 2023 at 7:48 PM Post #2,436 of 2,790
Thanks for the recommendation!

Multiple people recommending the same tube is definitely encouraging.

How do you go about finding a pair with the "foil" getters?
(most places that sell them don't show the getters)

Thanks!
Ask the seller about halo, foil, and photos of the tube upper innards.
 
Jan 23, 2023 at 8:32 PM Post #2,437 of 2,790
Hey friends,
If you're using socket savers and if you need to stack them together, get some aluminum tape at the hardware store. It's used in HVAC systems, so handles heat very well!
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Jan 26, 2023 at 5:55 AM Post #2,438 of 2,790
Thanks for the link!

My Valhalla II does double duty as a headphone amp and as a pre-amp in my stereo, so small sonic changes are really noticeable when listening through speakers.

I'd like to find a tube that's not too expensive, but sounds at least as good as the stock pre-amp tubes.
I've seen one or two people recommend the JJ gold pins, which may be worth a try, but $75 for two current production tubes is not much of a bargain.
I had recommended JJ gold pins in the past and thought that they sounded sweet on headphone. When used on speakers, they lack a sense of space.
 
Jan 28, 2023 at 6:31 PM Post #2,439 of 2,790
Hey Guys,

Decided to jump head first into the hobby. After doing some research I ordered all my gear last night. Ill be listening to mostly classical and playing FPS games. Everything will be hooked up to my PC.

AMP: Schiit Valhalla 2

DAC: Schiit BiFrost 2

Headphones: Sennheiser 800S

After tons of researching I stumbled upon this thread about "rolling tubes", pages 95-110ish have been eye opening for me to say the least! I need a bit of help from any of yall that have experience with the CV455 or the CV4033.

These are the the two tubes that I found.

CV455
https://www.langrex.co.uk/products/12at7-cv455-kb-fb-brimar-rare-triple-mica-1956-nos-valve-tube/

CV4033
https://pulsetubestore.com/products...4-12at7-factory-tested-plug-play-ready-to-use

The price difference between the 2 is huge. Money is not an issue but I don't want to be throwing away cash if the CV455 will sound just as good as the CV4033. What is yalls personal opinion on this? Which tube would you go for? Is there a noticeable difference between the 2? And lastly, I'm assuming I need an adapter for both?
 
Jan 28, 2023 at 6:39 PM Post #2,440 of 2,790
The CV455 from Langrex is the analogue of CV4033 and some say it might be a bit better. 😉

I have two pairs of CV455 from Langrex and can say that you will likely not be sorry if you spring for a pair or two. 😛
 
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Jan 28, 2023 at 6:42 PM Post #2,441 of 2,790
Hey Guys,

Decided to jump head first into the hobby. After doing some research I ordered all my gear last night. Ill be listening to mostly classical and playing FPS games. Everything will be hooked up to my PC.

AMP: Schiit Valhalla 2

DAC: Schiit BiFrost 2

Headphones: Sennheiser 800S

After tons of researching I stumbled upon this thread about "rolling tubes", pages 95-110ish have been eye opening for me to say the least! I need a bit of help from any of yall that have experience with the CV455 or the CV4033.

These are the the two tubes that I found.

CV455
https://www.langrex.co.uk/products/12at7-cv455-kb-fb-brimar-rare-triple-mica-1956-nos-valve-tube/

CV4033
https://pulsetubestore.com/products...4-12at7-factory-tested-plug-play-ready-to-use

The price difference between the 2 is huge. Money is not an issue but I don't want to be throwing away cash if the CV455 will sound just as good as the CV4033. What is yalls personal opinion on this? Which tube would you go for? Is there a noticeable difference between the 2? And lastly, I'm assuming I need an adapter for both?
I have both. And both are very good. I slightly prefer the CV455 - not just because I'm a cheapskate either. Although, because I'm a cheapskate, prefer the RFT ECC81 foil getter to either. :ksc75smile:

However, it's not for me to decide - you must try them all - that's the tube rolling rules. Personal audio sounds better in-person than on the internet.
 
Jan 28, 2023 at 6:45 PM Post #2,442 of 2,790
I have both. And both are very good. I slightly prefer the CV455 - not just because I'm a cheapskate either. Although, because I'm a cheapskate, prefer the RFT ECC81 foil getter to either. :ksc75smile:

However, it's not for me to decide - you must try them all - that's the tube rolling rules. Personal audio sounds better in-person than on the internet.

I guess what's another thousand when I'm already almost 4k deep in new equipment!!
 
Jan 28, 2023 at 8:51 PM Post #2,444 of 2,790
Hey Guys,

Decided to jump head first into the hobby. After doing some research I ordered all my gear last night. Ill be listening to mostly classical and playing FPS games. Everything will be hooked up to my PC.

AMP: Schiit Valhalla 2

DAC: Schiit BiFrost 2

Headphones: Sennheiser 800S

After tons of researching I stumbled upon this thread about "rolling tubes", pages 95-110ish have been eye opening for me to say the least! I need a bit of help from any of yall that have experience with the CV455 or the CV4033.

These are the the two tubes that I found.

CV455
https://www.langrex.co.uk/products/12at7-cv455-kb-fb-brimar-rare-triple-mica-1956-nos-valve-tube/

CV4033
https://pulsetubestore.com/products...4-12at7-factory-tested-plug-play-ready-to-use

The price difference between the 2 is huge. Money is not an issue but I don't want to be throwing away cash if the CV455 will sound just as good as the CV4033. What is yalls personal opinion on this? Which tube would you go for? Is there a noticeable difference between the 2? And lastly, I'm assuming I need an adapter for both?
Brimar CV455…. I have been a (the?) proponent of this tube….👍☑️….
 
Jan 28, 2023 at 8:53 PM Post #2,445 of 2,790
If by 'the proponent' you mean the vocal minority, the yes. 😏
 
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