Schiit Lyr Tube Rollers

[Fearless1]

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i hate to confess, I am no golden ear and I can't honestly find more than 10% obvious difference among all my tubes from 20 dollar a pair to 300 bucks a pair., any suggestion for this crappy ear symptom?

 Keep the stock tubes, save some money and call it a day.
 
I have never owned/heard a tube amp as responsive to tube rolling as the LYR and I have owned many tube amps in my day. I even run a tube amp in my car.
 
BTW people pay some big bucks (cables, power conditioners, and etc.) for 10% improvement.

 

[R Scott Ireland]

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Agreed,

Even though the old thread is long, it's worth working your way through it. Lots of very good information and ray enough to skim over less informative posts.

-Mike

 
I forgot to mention that you may also use the Search feature to filter posts to show only those that mention particular tubes.  This can save a lot of time.

 

[Sanlitun]

Curious about opinions here on new production tubes. My pair of JJ E88CCs are simply outstanding tubes and quite possibly my best. They have clarity and detail with just a touch of a silky character so that there is no grain or sibilance. I can't stand tubes that veil details and I think it makes for a very fatiguing listening experience when you are struggling to hear what you expect from the music. I gather these tubes are designed and sounded to be this way and they are very good and are in my top 3 among some very well regarded tubes.
 
Has anyone tried these or their gold pinned counterparts? There is also the Genalex E88CC which seems to be a modern 6N23P from the pictures I have seen. I'm pretty curious about those as well.

 

[nelamvr6]

If you like the way a pair of tubes sounds, you don't need anyone else's approval, they're good for you.
 
Everyone has an opinion, and they're all at the very least valid for that person.
 
But for the record, I have heard differences in tubes that I would say were WAY beyond 10%.  In fact, I would say that I've heard differences in burning in that I would describe as more than 10%.
 
But that's a pretty nebulous unit of measurement, each person has different ears, different pinnae, and different taste.
 
If you can be satisfied with inexpensive tubes, count yourself as fortunate and enjoy your music!
 
But as with most of our audiophile hobby, don't assume that others can't hear a difference simply because you can't.

 

[R Scott Ireland]

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But for the record, I have heard differences in tubes that I would say were WAY beyond 10%.  In fact, I would say that I've heard differences in burning in that I would describe as more than 10%.
 
But as with most of our audiophile hobby, don't assume that others can't hear a difference simply because you can't.

 
+1

 

[OldSkool]

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But as with most of our audiophile hobby, don't assume that others can't hear a difference simply because you can't.

 
+ one beeelyunnn 

 
 

 

[Zuckfun]

i hate to confess, I am no golden ear and I can't honestly find more than 10% obvious difference among all my tubes from 20 dollar a pair to 300 bucks a pair., any suggestion for this crappy ear symptom?

Is it possible the inability to distinguish between tubes is because of a weak link in your audio chain? That's to say, one of your components is hindering the tube's ability to shine. Although perhaps this was already considered...

 

[tuna47]

Need help of the lyr with the Odac would the bifrost USB be a big upgrade. In sound

 

[jmsaxon69]

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Need help of the lyr with the Odac would the bifrost USB be a big upgrade. In sound

Dude, it's a $150 portable DAC, what do you think? It will smoke it, be realistic (not the Radio Shack kind)
 
Stereophile reviews the Bifrost this month and called it the best value per dollar he has EVER reviewed, or something to that effect...
 
You will see god

 

[nelamvr6]

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Need help of the lyr with the Odac would the bifrost USB be a big upgrade. In sound

 
I've never heard the ODAC, but from what I've read the Bifrost, especially the Bifrost Uber, will be an upgrade.

 

[billerb1]

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Originally Posted by nelamvr6 
 
But for the record, I have heard differences in tubes that I would say were WAY beyond 10%.  In fact, I would say that I've heard differences in burning in that I would describe as more than 10%.
 
But as with most of our audiophile hobby, don't assume that others can't hear a difference simply because you can't.

Screw what tube sounds the best in the Lyr.  What tube looks the best in the Lyr ??  Isn't that the real question ???

 

[tuna47]

Thanks for the help now all I need is the money

 

[ckc527]

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i hate to confess, I am no golden ear and I can't honestly find more than 10% obvious difference among all my tubes from 20 dollar a pair to 300 bucks a pair., any suggestion for this crappy ear symptom?

 
What's in your chain?
 
ckc

 

[nelamvr6]

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Screw what tube sounds the best in the Lyr.  What tube looks the best in the Lyr ??  Isn't that the real question ???

 
Not in my opinion.

 

[BassInMyFace]

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Dude, it's a $150 portable DAC, what do you think? It will smoke it, be realistic (not the Radio Shack kind)
 
Stereophile reviews the Bifrost this month and called it the best value per dollar he has EVER reviewed, or something to that effect...
 
You will see god

 
I currently am using a ODAC with my Lyr.
 
I honestly am very happy with the setup.  It was the highest recommended DAC with the Lyr when I was doing my research.  The ODAC utilizes a Sabre chip that is integrated VERY WELL to the unit.  For $150, I find it hard to be beaten, especially when the Bifrost costs $350 or $450 depending on options.  It's also important to remember that the DAC has the smallest impact on sound quality for a setup, far less than the headphones, amplifier, and file quality.
 
Personally, I'm not looking to upgrade my DAC anytime soon.  I'm happy with my ODAC at least.  I just need to get some those Amperex Orange Globes and a pair of LCD-2s soon now since I have the itch!