Schiit Lyr Tube Rollers

[mikoss]

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The Mullards from Blackburn to seek out would be the CV2493 , or the CV2492. I'm not sure if there's an e188cc from Blackburn? I'll let some of the vets chime in.

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But Sam you ARE a vet !!! Johnny, as Sam said, hold out for the 2492's or preferably the hard to find 2493's if you want that signature Mrs. Butterworth (thick and rich!) Mullard sound.

lol I do agree it is liquid smooth, maybe a bit thick!

 

[billerb1]

Or better yet Johnny find a pair of early to mid 60's Holland made Philips Miniwatt E188CC's and you can live happily ever after. All done.

 

[mikoss]

Or better yet Johnny find a pair of early to mid 60's Holland made Philips Miniwatt E188CC's and you can live happily ever after. All done.

or one branded as a Mullard E188CC 

 

[billerb1]

or one branded as a Mullard E188CC 

But make sure it was made in Heerlen Holland which will have the delta symbol in the date code. My opinion anyway...

 

[Guidostrunk]

Lol. Someday I'll hit vet status. I'm guessing that they consider the CV2493=E188CC. They're definitely a buttery tube. I could see them being a good pairing with Grados. A brighter headphone.

B

The Mullards from Blackburn to seek out would be the CV2493 , or the CV2492. I'm not sure if there's an e188cc from Blackburn? I'll let some of the vets chime in.

Cheers[/quote

But Sam you ARE a vet !!! Johnny, as Sam said, hold out for the 2492's or preferably the hard to find 2493's if you want that signature Mrs. Butterworth (thick and rich!) Mullard sound.

 

[Guidostrunk]

I'm definitely a fan of Heerlen.

Or better yet Johnny find a pair of early to mid 60's Holland made Philips Miniwatt E188CC's and you can live happily ever after. All done.

 

[htr2d2]

  or one branded as a Mullard E188CC 

Nice!
 
I don't have one of those.. *sigh*

 

[billerb1]

Lol. Someday I'll hit vet status. I'm guessing that they consider the CV2493=E188CC. They're definitely a buttery tube. I could see them being a good pairing with Grados. A brighter headphone.

 
Good point with the Grados, Sam.  Very good point.

 

[gibosi]

Lol. Someday I'll hit vet status. I'm guessing that they consider the CV2493=E188CC. They're definitely a buttery tube. I could see them being a good pairing with Grados. A brighter headphone.

 
The CV2492 is identical to an E88CC.
 
http://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_cv2492.html
 
And the CV2493 is also an E88CC. However, it has been tested at the factory and hand-selected for vibration resistance and low noise.
 
http://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_cv2493.html
 
So, as long as they were manufactured in the same factory at the same time, CV2492, CV2493 and E88CC are all the same and will sound the same. While the extra vibration and noise selected CV2493 should perform better in severe military and industrial environments, I seriously doubt that Guidostrunk's Lyr is operating in such an environment. lol. And in my opinion, one should not pay a premium just because a tube is labeled CV2492 or CV2493. As has been said here many times, the most important things to consider are factory and date as indicated by the Philips production code.

 

[mikoss]

I would also recommend Siemens tubes with Grado's... I found the grey shield E88CC's sounded very nice with them. (But I am also a huge fan of the Holland tubes and generally prefer them above mostly anything else).
 
As for the CV's equaling the E188CC's, I would say that the E188CC's have higher heater current, so in specs, they aren't equal. (CV2492/CV2493 If is 300mA, E188CC If is 335mA). The CV4108 is the equivalent to the E188CC... never seen that, but then again, I don't own any tubes from this family stamped with CV codes.
 
In sound, they probably sound about the same.

 

[billerb1]

Gibosi was equating the CV's with the E88CC's...not the E188CC's.  Don't know if that matters.  I'm a complete idiot on that stuff.

 

[mikoss]

But Bill, you are the pinched waist whisperer, and god of all that is first/second/third batch. And generally good at finding tubes that I'll never see in my lifetime

 

[Exacoustatowner]

But Bill, you are the pinched waist whisperer, and god of all that is first/second/third batch. And generally good at finding tubes that I'll never see in my lifetime

"Sir Erb the PW Whisperer!!" I can attest to that!

 

[billerb1]

But Bill, you are the pinched waist whisperer, and god of all that is first/second/third batch. And generally good at finding tubes that I'll never see in my lifetime

 

"Sir Erb the PW Whisperer!!" I can attest to that!

 
Why do I get the feeling I'm about to be fleeced ???
Mike as you know I am waiting for the arrival of the sister to my prized Holland Valvo CCa PW ...both incredibly with same version and date codes 7L1 Delta6K.
But I cannot take credit for the find, despite your misplaced faith in me.  I owe a huge debt of gratitude to Sam (Guidostrunk) for making the discovery
and bringing me the news.  Shocking that one could be found in an of itself...but with the same exact codes??!!!  That just doesn't happen.  And Eric's (Exacoustatowner) purchase
of my American-made PW's greatly helped me to be able to make the purchase.  I owe all of you for sharing your friendship, your knowledge and your love of the MUSIC !!!

 

[Exacoustatowner]

Why do I get the feeling I'm about to be fleeced ???
Mike as you know I am waiting for the arrival of the sister to my prized Holland Valvo CCa PW ...both incredibly with same version and date codes 7L1 Delta6K.
But I cannot take credit for the find, despite your misplaced faith in me.  I owe a huge debt of gratitude to Sam (Guidostrunk) for making the discovery
and bringing me the news.  Shocking that one could be found in an of itself...but with the same exact codes??!!!  That just doesn't happen.  And Eric's (Exacoustatowner) purchase
of my American-made PW's greatly helped me to be able to make the purchase.  I owe all of you for sharing your friendship, your knowledge and your love of the MUSIC !!!

Ah shucks Bill! . Glad to help a fellow worshipper of the Holy Tube!
Congrats on the incoming tubes!!!