Schiit Lyr Tube Rollers
Jul 12, 2019 at 4:18 AM Post #22,190 of 23,494
Sorry to muck up thread with a help question. I am reading through this entire thread, but I would like a little help in recommendations. I am new to tubes and I have a lot to learn. I want to find a way to dampen some of the vibration noise exhibited in my new test amp.

Would socket savers help with this issue?
Also I am looking for a clean, low noise floor 12AU7 tube, under $100 each ( I need a matched pair). Is tubedepot recommended, or can I trust ebay auctions? Right now I have zoned in on the Black Sable JJ ECC82 or the Telefunken Black Diamond ECC82. Thanks

First off welcome to the thread!

A question for you, which tube amp do you have? Is it a Schiit Lyr or Mjolnir 2?

Regarding being able to dampen the vibration, a few things for you to try,
1. Tubemonger’s socket savers have a vibration resistant base and this can help, plus most of us here use Tubemonger socket savers.
https://www.tubemonger.com/NOVIB_Socket_Saver_1960s_NOS_British_McMurdo_B9A_p/novib-mcmurdo.htm

2. If your amp is a Lyr or Mjolnir for example, running 12**7 tubes you’ll need adapters. Tubemonger just started making 12**7 to ECC88 adapters and they are the best I have used, they also have the vibration resistant base, so like their socket savers these have the potential to help reduce noise.
https://www.tubemonger.com/12Axx_to...IB_1960s_p/12axx-ecc88-adap-novib-mcmurdo.htm
They are currently out of stock but should be getting more in very soon.

3. Herbies Audio Lab has some really good tube dampers. They look funny but work very well, I am using the “Guitar Amp UltraSonic” it is the second link.
https://herbiesaudiolab.com/collections/tube-dampers
And https://herbiesaudiolab.com/products/guitar-amp-ultrasonic

For good 12AU7 Tubes take @TK16 up on his offer and PM him, he is a trusted member on this fourm and has some really good tubes and recommendations.

Also if you haven’t already, read this fourm from page 1241 https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-lyr-tube-rollers.673709/page-1241 As @AuditoryCanvas another trusted member with a vast knowledge on tubes. He put together a list of tubes that will and will not work in said amps do to heater current etc.

Hope this helps
 
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Jul 12, 2019 at 5:30 PM Post #22,191 of 23,494
First off welcome to the thread!

A question for you, which tube amp do you have? Is it a Schiit Lyr or Mjolnir 2?

Regarding being able to dampen the vibration, a few things for you to try,
1. Tubemonger’s socket savers have a vibration resistant base and this can help, plus most of us here use Tubemonger socket savers.
https://www.tubemonger.com/NOVIB_Socket_Saver_1960s_NOS_British_McMurdo_B9A_p/novib-mcmurdo.htm

2. If your amp is a Lyr or Mjolnir for example, running 12**7 tubes you’ll need adapters. Tubemonger just started making 12**7 to ECC88 adapters and they are the best I have used, they also have the vibration resistant base, so like their socket savers these have the potential to help reduce noise.
https://www.tubemonger.com/12Axx_to...IB_1960s_p/12axx-ecc88-adap-novib-mcmurdo.htm
They are currently out of stock but should be getting more in very soon.

3. Herbies Audio Lab has some really good tube dampers. They look funny but work very well, I am using the “Guitar Amp UltraSonic” it is the second link.
https://herbiesaudiolab.com/collections/tube-dampers
And https://herbiesaudiolab.com/products/guitar-amp-ultrasonic

For good 12AU7 Tubes take @TK16 up on his offer and PM him, he is a trusted member on this fourm and has some really good tubes and recommendations.

Also if you haven’t already, read this fourm from page 1241 https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-lyr-tube-rollers.673709/page-1241 As @AuditoryCanvas another trusted member with a vast knowledge on tubes. He put together a list of tubes that will and will not work in said amps do to heater current etc.

Hope this helps
Thanks for the 100% unsolicited, uncompensated recommendation! Unrelated, check your PayPal balance.
 
Jul 13, 2019 at 7:23 AM Post #22,192 of 23,494
Jul 13, 2019 at 7:28 AM Post #22,193 of 23,494
Slow, the GE tubes are unbelievably slimy and the black spray paint just rolls off. Might have to upgrade to Christmas lights.

Remember we're getting ready to flip the switch on the GE's. Now that I have thousands of them bought for pennies, they're ready to become THE tubes to have. Of course, prices will skyrocket quickly. I'll put up a "for sale" ad soon and keep prices just below $100 per tube for the time being. Shipping and PayPal fees will have to be additional at those prices though. :smiley:
 
Jul 13, 2019 at 7:31 AM Post #22,194 of 23,494
First off welcome to the thread!

A question for you, which tube amp do you have? Is it a Schiit Lyr or Mjolnir 2?

Regarding being able to dampen the vibration, a few things for you to try,
1. Tubemonger’s socket savers have a vibration resistant base and this can help, plus most of us here use Tubemonger socket savers.
https://www.tubemonger.com/NOVIB_Socket_Saver_1960s_NOS_British_McMurdo_B9A_p/novib-mcmurdo.htm

2. If your amp is a Lyr or Mjolnir for example, running 12**7 tubes you’ll need adapters. Tubemonger just started making 12**7 to ECC88 adapters and they are the best I have used, they also have the vibration resistant base, so like their socket savers these have the potential to help reduce noise.
https://www.tubemonger.com/12Axx_to...IB_1960s_p/12axx-ecc88-adap-novib-mcmurdo.htm
They are currently out of stock but should be getting more in very soon.

3. Herbies Audio Lab has some really good tube dampers. They look funny but work very well, I am using the “Guitar Amp UltraSonic” it is the second link.
https://herbiesaudiolab.com/collections/tube-dampers
And https://herbiesaudiolab.com/products/guitar-amp-ultrasonic

For good 12AU7 Tubes take @TK16 up on his offer and PM him, he is a trusted member on this fourm and has some really good tubes and recommendations.

Also if you haven’t already, read this fourm from page 1241 https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-lyr-tube-rollers.673709/page-1241 As @AuditoryCanvas another trusted member with a vast knowledge on tubes. He put together a list of tubes that will and will not work in said amps do to heater current etc.

Hope this helps

Nicely written and great info.
 
Jul 13, 2019 at 2:21 PM Post #22,196 of 23,494
Remember we're getting ready to flip the switch on the GE's. Now that I have thousands of them bought for pennies, they're ready to become THE tubes to have. Of course, prices will skyrocket quickly. I'll put up a "for sale" ad soon and keep prices just below $100 per tube for the time being. Shipping and PayPal fees will have to be additional at those prices though. :smiley:
I hear ya! Really killing me not putting GE in my number 1 spot where it deserves to be. My fake
number 1 tube is awful. GE to the rescue!
 
Jul 13, 2019 at 2:51 PM Post #22,197 of 23,494
Just so everyone's on the same page -- the #1 place represents THE BEST SOUNDING TUBE. Given this new info., @TK16 will likely need to revisit his tube rankings. :wink:
 
Jul 14, 2019 at 8:33 PM Post #22,199 of 23,494
First off welcome to the thread!

A question for you, which tube amp do you have? Is it a Schiit Lyr or Mjolnir 2?

Regarding being able to dampen the vibration, a few things for you to try,
1. Tubemonger’s socket savers have a vibration resistant base and this can help, plus most of us here use Tubemonger socket savers.
https://www.tubemonger.com/NOVIB_Socket_Saver_1960s_NOS_British_McMurdo_B9A_p/novib-mcmurdo.htm

2. If your amp is a Lyr or Mjolnir for example, running 12**7 tubes you’ll need adapters. Tubemonger just started making 12**7 to ECC88 adapters and they are the best I have used, they also have the vibration resistant base, so like their socket savers these have the potential to help reduce noise.
https://www.tubemonger.com/12Axx_to...IB_1960s_p/12axx-ecc88-adap-novib-mcmurdo.htm
They are currently out of stock but should be getting more in very soon.

3. Herbies Audio Lab has some really good tube dampers. They look funny but work very well, I am using the “Guitar Amp UltraSonic” it is the second link.
https://herbiesaudiolab.com/collections/tube-dampers
And https://herbiesaudiolab.com/products/guitar-amp-ultrasonic

For good 12AU7 Tubes take @TK16 up on his offer and PM him, he is a trusted member on this fourm and has some really good tubes and recommendations.

Also if you haven’t already, read this fourm from page 1241 https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-lyr-tube-rollers.673709/page-1241 As @AuditoryCanvas another trusted member with a vast knowledge on tubes. He put together a list of tubes that will and will not work in said amps do to heater current etc.

Hope this helps


Dude this is AWESOME. I have a Xduoo Ta-20, for now. I also bought a pair of socket savers.

Once they go in, how in the world do you remove the socket savers lol? I am also pming TK16!!
 
Jul 14, 2019 at 10:02 PM Post #22,200 of 23,494
Dude this is AWESOME. I have a Xduoo Ta-20, for now. I also bought a pair of socket savers.

Once they go in, how in the world do you remove the socket savers lol? I am also pming TK16!!

Glad the info was helpful!

Regarding the socket savers, they are hard to get out of some amps, for me it’s my Cavelli Liquid Platnium (LP) as there is almost no room, to be able to remove them. However I have no intent on removing mine as they make tube rolling much easier and have the added benefit of “saving” wear on your gear with repeated tube rolling. They are much easier to remove from my Schiit Mjolnir 2 (MJ2) though. I will include pictures of each below.

For you Xduoo TA-20 I believe you will have to remove the “tube protectors” to allow the tubes to fit with the socket savers.

How do you like your Xduoo TA-20?

@TK16 should be able to get you set-up with some really good tubes!

If you have any other questions just ask, really good group of people here on this thread!


Below is my (LP) with Tubemonger socket savers, as you can see there is almost no room around the socket savers.
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Below is my (MJ2) with the Tubemonger socket savers, much more room around these then the LP.
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