Schiit Lyr Tube Rollers

Apr 3, 2014 at 6:45 PM Post #1,683 of 23,504
Thank you  I'll look at it closely...
 
 
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Apr 3, 2014 at 6:50 PM Post #1,684 of 23,504
Everything looks soo similar.
I don't think you need a magifing glass by any means, it's just a case of familiarity. If you can count one post vs two - you pretty much have it. A flat plate vs a wire.

On some tubes like the 12ax7, it gets really hard to tell the differences, box getter, D getter, U getter, halo getter, angled getter, etc... And those getters are hidden often by the flashing. Long plates, short plates, ribbed plates, smooth plates. Then rebranded by 6 different companies, made in 12 different factories, 5 different countries, etc...

One thing I do like on the 6n23p, is straight foward date codes! No weird symbols - no decoding rings needed.

PS Partly they look similar, is that they are. My #1 Reflecktor has the exact same construction as my #2 Voskhod - the difference is the #1 has a Silver Shield, the #2 a Gray Shield.
 
Apr 3, 2014 at 7:07 PM Post #1,685 of 23,504
Pih!  I use a scanning electron microscope to suss the differences at the atomic level.  It's the only way to be sure.
 
Also, I have a pair of platinum-pinned pinch-waist E388CCs (the SUPER TUBE, as they're known), that I'm happy to part with.  I'll just need the birth certificate of your first born (past or future, makes no difference), and the deed to your house.  I don't take condos.
 
 
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Apr 3, 2014 at 7:50 PM Post #1,686 of 23,504
Yes, I have to check that all metalic lattices are aligned from the cryogenic processing! :-)

Talk about second mortgages! Check these super- dupers out! $600/pr Amperex Pinchies.


http://app.audiogon.com/listings/tube-3-amperex-pinched-waist-envelope-6922-d-ring-getter-white-letter-gold-pins-very-low-n-2014-03-10-preamplifiers-80260-denver-co
 
Apr 3, 2014 at 9:27 PM Post #1,687 of 23,504
Yes, I have to check that all metalic lattices are aligned from the cryogenic processing! :-)

Talk about second mortgages! Check these super- dupers out! $600/pr Amperex Pinchies.


http://app.audiogon.com/listings/tube-3-amperex-pinched-waist-envelope-6922-d-ring-getter-white-letter-gold-pins-very-low-n-2014-03-10-preamplifiers-80260-denver-co

 
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Second mortgage or divorce papers 
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  I'd have to sell half my tubes to justify those, and then I'd really need to see God.
 
Apr 3, 2014 at 9:52 PM Post #1,689 of 23,504
Buy the 1st pr for $600 and you get the 2nd pr for 'only' $500! Such a deal!

 
LMAO!  Didn't even see that.  Now I'm tempted...
 
excuse me while I take out a life insurance policy on my wife 
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Joking aside, I wonder what they sound like.  Three times better than my CCas?  I know, I know, it doesn't work that way.
 
Apr 3, 2014 at 10:07 PM Post #1,690 of 23,504
LMAO!  Didn't even see that.  Now I'm tempted...

excuse me while I take out a life insurance policy on my wife ;)

Joking aside, I wonder what they sound like.  Three times better than my CCas?  I know, I know, it doesn't work that way.
Honey, wanna go for a hike? LOL!! You know I'm so tempted...I'd love to compare to the 'Holy Grail' 6n23p. But that's a hurdle insurmountable.
 
Apr 3, 2014 at 10:13 PM Post #1,691 of 23,504
Honey, wanna go for a hike? LOL!! You know I'm so tempted...I'd love to compare to the 'Holy Grail' 6n23p. But that's a hurdle insurmountable.

 
Fortunately I'm not as crazy as that crazy b'yatch who pushed her new husband off a cliff in Glacier National Park.
 
So even if you make some decent sales on your eBay listings, it's not enough?  Guess that would have to be a lot of sales.  And, IIRC, you're just mostly looking to break even on the cost of buying bulk batches?  Regardless, it is kind of an absurd price to pay for two freakin' valves.  I'd have to win the lottery.
 
Apr 3, 2014 at 10:33 PM Post #1,692 of 23,504
Fortunately I'm not as crazy as that crazy b'yatch who pushed her new husband off a cliff in Glacier National Park.

So even if you make some decent sales on your eBay listings, it's not enough?  Guess that would have to be a lot of sales.  And, IIRC, you're just mostly looking to break even on the cost of buying bulk batches?  Regardless, it is kind of an absurd price to pay for two freakin' valves.  I'd have to win the lottery.
I heard about that - divorce Suprano's style.

It's been a break even, but I did get a few pairs for my efforts. It's really a pain - especially waiting in line at the post office. Ugg!

It's the only way I could have gotten these. But it's also been a great learning experience, and has fed my audio OCD nicely! Ha!

Honestly the most fun has been sharing this ground breaking audio quest with this forum. I was thinking last night, while sipping a glass of cab, and just getting blown away by some great sounds, nobody in the world has done this with these Russian tubes. I mean maybe in Siberia some retired Soviet Rocket Engineer has a garage full of these, and a great amp to listen to them, and a uncontroled case of audio nervousa like me. But I kinda doubt it. Or he would have bought them all up! Besides he wouldn't have had 20 years of 6922 collecting and listening. To most of the greats, to compare these against. Or the excellent microscope the Lyr/HD800/Moon Black Dragon has been to make evaluations.

So I guess this is my audio legacy.
 
Apr 3, 2014 at 10:48 PM Post #1,693 of 23,504
I heard about that - divorce Suprano's style.

It's been a break even, but I did get a few pairs for my efforts. It's really a pain - especially waiting in line at the post office. Ugg!

It's the only way I could have gotten these. But it's also been a great learning experience, and has fed my audio OCD nicely! Ha!

Honestly the most fun has been sharing this ground breaking audio quest with this forum. I was thinking last night, while sipping a glass of cab, and just getting blown away by some great sounds, nobody in the world has done this with these Russian tubes. I mean maybe in Siberia some retired Soviet Rocket Engineer has a garage full of these, and a great amp to listen to them, and a uncontroled case of audio nervousa like me. But I kinda doubt it. Or he would have bought them all up! Besides he wouldn't have had 20 years of 6922 collecting and listening. To most of the greats, to compare these against. Or the excellent microscope the Lyr/HD800/Moon Black Dragon has been to make evaluations.

So I guess this is my audio legacy.

 
Not a bad legacy, and obviously you've appreciated the journey for what it is.  As for going above and beyond the call to share your knowledge, I raise my glass of Pinot Noir to you, sir 
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Apr 3, 2014 at 11:03 PM Post #1,694 of 23,504
Much appreciated! I get great joy hearing the feedback others are sharing on how wonderful these sound. You should see the emails I get. I have one experienced audiophile with an excellent ARC preamp, that is in estatic audio heaven listening to these.

The comments from the Russian fellow, how even he can't find the '75s in Russia speaks folds. The word has spread aross the globe! What a world!

Now if some Russian garage sale scavenger would only come across a few dozen Holy Grails and throw them up on Ebay!

Cheers!!
 

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