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Nov 16, 2011 at 7:00 PM Post #2,281 of 8,735


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You can wait like 10 mins, or...
 
Many ppl here (and me) use Electro-Harmonix EH Tube Glove
http://amzn.com/B000UMCLIC

 
Thanks, I might get the socket saver for my Lyr, just so I can see the glow of the tubes clearly 
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. I waited like 3 minutes and touched the tubes (at first it was the stock tubes), pretty warm but the base of the tubes were much hotter. Nothing much to write home about the stock 6BZ7 tubes, my DACmini headphone out has better resolution than them. Next up is the Siemens E188CC that I am listening to right now. These tubes needs a bit more volume to reach the same listening volume, but man, the German tubes have better resolution, detail, especially in the vocals, and then it's the soundstage, the separation and the sense of space of depth is quite a bit better than the stock tubes, just like what the reviews say...

So far, 6BZ7 << DACmini amp << Siemens E188CC. The songs are fed into the Lyr by the DACmini so I can't rule out the influence of the DAC chip on the sound.

Meanwhile, the US Amperex USN CEP 6922...sadly, is microphonics. But it's pretty cute, it makes the sound "ting" when I tap on them, like they have a voice and life of their own. Sound wise, very good separation, though soundstage and imaging wise is not as 3D sounding as the Siemens. What's special is the focus on vocals. It puts the vocals in front of the accompanying music...these Amperex and hopefully the Valvo that I will roll in next, have some magical touch on the vocals, making them that seductive sounding. Back to rolling.
 
 
 
Nov 16, 2011 at 8:41 PM Post #2,283 of 8,735
Let me tell you how much I'm enjoying these Siemens 1974 E88CC tubes... I have revised my opinion on how I feel about the Naxos label . If you were to ask me about this label before I changed my entire digital front end source & started using the Lyr with these tubes & to a lesser degree the Mullard tubes I would have told you that the Naxos recording producers were completely clueless when it came to classical music. I am actually enjoying CDs I have'nt touched in years because I felt they were devoid of enjoyable sound. I was wrong. A good amount of them still sound just a bit "raw" but the amount of ambient detail in these recordings is really supprising (given my earlier listenning assessment of these recordings). The recordings that I already thought were superior now have me wanting to leave my disc player in repeat mode just to make sure that I did'nt imagine many of the "Holy C@#p!" moments I'm experiencing while listening to these recordings. I have quite a few CDs(I'm not talking about the Naxos now) that if I did'nt know which case I took them from I might guess they were SACDs.(& by the same token some SACDs really distinguish themselves from most of the other recordings.) I think I would have spend a good bit more to get as much enjoyment out of solid state equipment. I don't think I can enjoy digital music through SS. I was able to listen to analog through solid state.Digital w/out tubes somewhere in the playback chain does'nt come close to working for me.
 
Nov 16, 2011 at 9:06 PM Post #2,284 of 8,735


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Dear MacedonianHero,
 
Hope you don't mind sharing your experience on the sonic differences between the Gold Lions and the other NOS tubes which you mentioned?
 
I was thinking of getting a pair of either the Gold lions or Telefunkens to replace the current pair of cryo'ed 6N1P-EVs installed in my preamp.
 
Is the soundstaging detail and accuracy of the GL comparable with the Telefunkens?
Or are they really way off ala Mullard CV2492/93s?



Brilliant mids (likely the best), nicely defined bass without being overly boomy and treble that isn't bright, but yet extended. Overall very nice tubes. FWIW, I don't really believe in CYRO treatment...never heard a difference.
 
Nov 16, 2011 at 9:26 PM Post #2,285 of 8,735
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 I want a new design in android tablet pc which is 5 point touch screen function and wifi.Please hlep me to choose.
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Hi SanLee!  Welcome to Head-Fi and sorry about your wallet!
 
I think you posted in the wrong thread.  If you are asking for help in choosing an android tablet PC for a sound/music source, you might try this thread:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/f/15/portable-source-gear
 
or better yet, here:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/f/46/computer-audio
 
This thread is really for rolling various radio tubes into an amplifier called (I kid you not...) the Schiit Lyr.
 
Hope this helps...
 
Cheers!
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-HK sends
 
 
 
Nov 16, 2011 at 9:39 PM Post #2,286 of 8,735
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Hi SanLee!  Welcome to Head-Fi and sorry about your wallet!
 
I think you posted in the wrong thread.  If you are asking for help in choosing an android tablet PC for a sound/music source, you might try this thread:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/f/15/portable-source-gear
 
or better yet, here:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/f/46/computer-audio
 
This thread is really for rolling various radio tubes into an amplifier called (I kid you not...) the Schiit Lyr.
 
Hope this helps...
 
Cheers!
beerchug.gif

-HK sends
 
 


I think that's a spammer. Kudos to you for the patient response though.
 
Nov 16, 2011 at 11:30 PM Post #2,289 of 8,735
Even though this thread is really long, some extra pictures wouldn't harm, I figured.
 

All my tubes! One more pair of British tubes coming soon.
 

 

How can I post here, if I do not show the Lyr 
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Nov 16, 2011 at 11:30 PM Post #2,290 of 8,735
Are these where you got them from or Ebay?
http://www.tubemonger.com/Siemens_MPs_1974_E88CC_6922_A_Frame_Gold_Pin_MINT_p/857.htm

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Let me tell you how much I'm enjoying these Siemens 1974 E88CC tubes... I have revised my opinion on how I feel about the Naxos label . If you were to ask me about this label before I changed my entire digital front end source & started using the Lyr with these tubes & to a lesser degree the Mullard tubes I would have told you that the Naxos recording producers were completely clueless when it came to classical music. I am actually enjoying CDs I have'nt touched in years because I felt they were devoid of enjoyable sound. I was wrong. A good amount of them still sound just a bit "raw" but the amount of ambient detail in these recordings is really supprising (given my earlier listenning assessment of these recordings). The recordings that I already thought were superior now have me wanting to leave my disc player in repeat mode just to make sure that I did'nt imagine many of the "Holy C@#p!" moments I'm experiencing while listening to these recordings. I have quite a few CDs(I'm not talking about the Naxos now) that if I did'nt know which case I took them from I might guess they were SACDs.(& by the same token some SACDs really distinguish themselves from most of the other recordings.) I think I would have spend a good bit more to get as much enjoyment out of solid state equipment. I don't think I can enjoy digital music through SS. I was able to listen to analog through solid state.Digital w/out tubes somewhere in the playback chain does'nt come close to working for me.



 
 
Nov 16, 2011 at 11:33 PM Post #2,291 of 8,735
Some good looking tubes there, most with their screens intact.
Whoa, you gotta tell me your impressions so far with the Lyr and LCD-3.  I'll weed through your past posts but if you haven't said anything yet let's hear the scope!
 
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Even though this thread is really long, some extra pictures wouldn't harm, I figured.
All my tubes! One more pair of British tubes coming soon.
 

 
 
Nov 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM Post #2,292 of 8,735
^ I believe a few pages back he said he got them from tubemonger. 
 
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Nov 17, 2011 at 12:25 AM Post #2,293 of 8,735


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Some good looking tubes there, most with their screens intact.
Whoa, you gotta tell me your impressions so far with the Lyr and LCD-3.  I'll weed through your past posts but if you haven't said anything yet let's hear the scope!
 
 


Oh man I am really busy until next Wednesday. I post something not long ago, nothing conclusive. A lot of tubes have slight microphonics, even the NOS Amperex 6922 (USA USN version). I am just listening to the Siemens E188CC for now, as overall I think they sound the best. When I feel like I need a more focused listening, where I will be listening to more female vocals, I might swap in the Amperex 6922. The Valvo E88CC (not NOS tubes) didn't particularly impressed me on anything, I might have to go back and swap it a few more rounds.
 
Oh one more thing, I have a pair of  Amperex 7308 that is pretty well matched, even though I don't think they have the same color of paint (one might be white and one is orange), I find that pair to be really pleasing to listen to. It's just real smooth, but it does not force/push the vocal in front, in other words, the mid range is not as forward. The slightly drier and detailed Siemens E188CC demands more attention, as it conveys better sense of ambiance. As for pairing with the headphone, since I am biased towards tubes that do not have microphonics, I find that Siemens E188CC pairs well with the LCD-3 for now. It might be due to the nature of planar magnetic headphones, since I do not find that the LCD-3 portrays that wide of a soundstage, and the imaging is although great, I think this is one of its weakness. I believe Skylab mentioned something about imaging on his review thread, and although I do not believe him at first, I can get a sense of what he means now. Due to the good sense of space (which might contribute to better separation, in part), good imaging of E188CC makes it my favorite tubes for now. 
 
LCD-3 for me is not like revelation, it doesn't really wow me when I heard it (usually means the response is pretty even, as no part of spectrum stood out), except the treble, which has an edge in it (very smooth nonetheless), giving guitar and certain acoustic instruments the 'Twang' they should have. In some ways, I can relate the timbre to the FX-700 earphone that I sold some time ago, except that the LCD-3 is much smoother. In certain subtle ways the LCD-3 improves upon the sound quality I get from my JH16. Coming from a good customs does have its downside, as I won't really get wow'ed that easily, which is sad 
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. Maybe I should have a listen to other headphones from some high end amps to get a benchmark of how headphones should sound.
Few things that I can easily point out that the LCD-3 outdoes the JH16 are midrange clarity, treble naturalness, low bass texture (due to the LCD-3 huge diaphragm and tight clamp, you can really feel the air movement). And yes, there are occasions where I actually hear more details (or more like soft background ambiance) from the LCD-3 compared to the JH 16. Mind you, my impression is nowhere as accurate as the impressions from other people here, as LCD-3 is officially and technically my first full size headphone 
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Nov 17, 2011 at 12:53 AM Post #2,294 of 8,735
Thanks for the impressions and coming from custom IEMs you will definitely have a different perspective from those of us who are primarily headphone guys.  LCDs are not know for their soundstage but I find it pleasant nonetheless when being driven by the Lyr.  Your LCDs need to possibly burn a little more and possibly an aftermarket cable will lead to improvements in imaging (YMMV, I noticed a difference when changing from the stock cable to Norse Norn).  With the LCDs I wasn't super impressed at the start but over time I came to appreciate them more and more.  Now I don't see myself ever completely leaving the Audeze line.  Lyr drives the LCD-2 well.  Let's see what you have to say of the Lyr + LCD-3 after you've had a chance to spend some quality time with them in the upcoming weeks.  

 
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Oh man I am really busy until next Wednesday. I post something not long ago, nothing conclusive. A lot of tubes have slight microphonics, even the NOS Amperex 6922 (USA USN version). I am just listening to the Siemens E188CC for now, as overall I think they sound the best. When I feel like I need a more focused listening, where I will be listening to more female vocals, I might swap in the Amperex 6922. The Valvo E88CC (not NOS tubes) didn't particularly impressed me on anything, I might have to go back and swap it a few more rounds.
 
Oh one more thing, I have a pair of  Amperex 7308 that is pretty well matched, even though I don't think they have the same color of paint (one might be white and one is orange), I find that pair to be really pleasing to listen to. It's just real smooth, but it does not force/push the vocal in front, in other words, the mid range is not as forward. The slightly drier and detailed Siemens E188CC demands more attention, as it conveys better sense of ambiance. As for pairing with the headphone, since I am biased towards tubes that do not have microphonics, I find that Siemens E188CC pairs well with the LCD-3 for now. It might be due to the nature of planar magnetic headphones, since I do not find that the LCD-3 portrays that wide of a soundstage, and the imaging is although great, I think this is one of its weakness. I believe Skylab mentioned something about imaging on his review thread, and although I do not believe him at first, I can get a sense of what he means now. Due to the good sense of space (which might contribute to better separation, in part), good imaging of E188CC makes it my favorite tubes for now. 
 
LCD-3 for me is not like revelation, it doesn't really wow me when I heard it (usually means the response is pretty even, as no part of spectrum stood out), except the treble, which has an edge in it (very smooth nonetheless), giving guitar and certain acoustic instruments the 'Twang' they should have. In some ways, I can relate the timbre to the FX-700 earphone that I sold some time ago, except that the LCD-3 is much smoother. In certain subtle ways the LCD-3 improves upon the sound quality I get from my JH16. Coming from a good customs does have its downside, as I won't really get wow'ed that easily, which is sad 
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. Maybe I should have a listen to other headphones from some high end amps to get a benchmark of how headphones should sound.
Few things that I can easily point out that the LCD-3 outdoes the JH16 are midrange clarity, treble naturalness, low bass texture (due to the LCD-3 huge diaphragm and tight clamp, you can really feel the air movement). And yes, there are occasions where I actually hear more details (or more like soft background ambiance) from the LCD-3 compared to the JH 16. Mind you, my impression is nowhere as accurate as the impressions from other people here, as LCD-3 is officially and technically my first full size headphone 
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.
 



 
 
Nov 17, 2011 at 1:26 AM Post #2,295 of 8,735


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I think that's a spammer. Kudos to you for the patient response though.



Yeah, and it would be good to edit out the spammed link in the quoted message as well so the link doesn't get any search engine coverage.
 
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