Derrick Swart
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Very true. Absolutely enjoy U tube
Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up
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Derrick Swart
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Yep. Or frequent flyers like me with a negative pressure in one ear
If Amazon decides to stream 24/96 I would have to see what their catalog is like. Otherwise I am fine with Qobuz.
quimbo
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Lots of live shows available for streaming at the Live Music Archive
Here is one way to navigate - https://archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=creator
Find the artist you like, click it, for example https://archive.org/details/RailroadEarth
Then click a show - https://archive.org/details/rre2019-08-16 - and you can stream it directly. Many shows such as this one also have options to download the files in various format (Download Options on the right). There are several android apps for LMA
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Here is one way to navigate - https://archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=creator
Find the artist you like, click it, for example https://archive.org/details/RailroadEarth
Then click a show - https://archive.org/details/rre2019-08-16 - and you can stream it directly. Many shows such as this one also have options to download the files in various format (Download Options on the right). There are several android apps for LMA
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This is really awesome, thank you very much quimbo!
Where Qobus is really great and differentiating in my point of view even greater is their commended guide and writings about genres and artists.
Many moons ago when Tidal was still a Swedish (?) company I was their customer because of their great music recommendations, which were actually written by true people working for them. Today I'm a Tidal client, but when I'll be living in a country where Qobus is available I'll leave them, because Tidal music recommendation for me is not working at all (read: soooo baaad) and their "CD quality" is when listening to Jazz or Classical Music not really CD Quality.
Enjoy your music!
Matthias
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I realize there are better options than Tidal out there...
I hate the nonstop hip hop advertisements
When I open the app it should just go to my music
The search engine is awful, it can’t find B.B. King if you search for bb king.
...but it only costs me $5/month so I put up with it.
I hate the nonstop hip hop advertisements
When I open the app it should just go to my music
The search engine is awful, it can’t find B.B. King if you search for bb king.
...but it only costs me $5/month so I put up with it.
ScubaMan2017
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When I'm on this thread, I forget just how niche and echo-chamber-esk Schiit Audio Limited is... especially here in Toronto. I just assume Hi-Fi shops have seen this produ ct -- nope. I auditioned a pair of $1800 CDN Audeze LCD-2 (closed back model) using my piddily Fulla 2... solely powered by my Chromebook's USB. Mighty Mouse (Fulla) lit these cans up... and I was feeding it Google Play (so 320KBps, MP3?) tunes.
The salesmen (yep, all guys at one store) passed the Fulla around and tentatively spun the pot. My lesson: I'm priveleged to have Schiit gear and it really DOES punch above its weight. Oh, and this thread goes DEEP into the technical details of Hi-Fi.
BTW - if you're in the GTA and want to visit a 100% audio shop (not a 4K-TV in sight), drop me a PM. The owner made an excellent impression with me.
The salesmen (yep, all guys at one store) passed the Fulla around and tentatively spun the pot. My lesson: I'm priveleged to have Schiit gear and it really DOES punch above its weight. Oh, and this thread goes DEEP into the technical details of Hi-Fi.
BTW - if you're in the GTA and want to visit a 100% audio shop (not a 4K-TV in sight), drop me a PM. The owner made an excellent impression with me.
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I use Apple Music and Tidal. The Apple Music quality isn't the best but it isn't bad. And it's the best for music discovery. I have years of iTunes playlists and a lot of what I want isn't on the Hi-rez services. Tried Qobuz but there was too much of what I listen to missing. The bonus for Apple Music is that you can upload things that aren't in the catalog, like something from SoundCloud or something you ripped from a CD that's not available for streaming. Based on my personal listening tests, I can only say that the quality varies from song to song across all streaming platforms, No clear, consistent winner. And that leads me to Roon. I don't have it but I want it. I can mix my sources across streaming and owned tracks. Only downside for me is no Apple Music.
Wanted to add to the racks of Schiit on display here. I'm using an IKEA KNARREVIK night stand i bought for $9.99. I just holds the Vidar with nothing sticking out of the back except wires. I bought two so I can drill extra holes to add a second shelf and get the DigiOne off of the floor. It's minimal and seems to fit Schiit's industrial design philosophy.
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If you like live music, i am one of the admins at LossLess Legs https://www.shnflac.net/ - a site for bit torrenting live music. A few members of this thread are members there. It started as a Grateful Dead / Jerry Garcia site and has evolved to all sorts of good music, many genres, recent shows and lots of older shows. All the new Charlie Miller releases debut here. We respect all the artists who do not support electronic trading (ABB, many others). Very laid back community of good folks. It does require a sign up, PM me and I'll fast track them. I built and maintain a comprehensive dead and garcia database of recordings at this site,
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Robert Padgett
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Great Suggestion, I will order one for my Schiit Stack -- ModiMB, EITR, Valhalla 2.
US Blues
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Rensek
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All of this talk about file formats and sound quality is quite interesting. I've always understood it as all of the notes and inflections present on vinyl/CD/flac are still tangible on the compressed file. What matters is the quality of file/copy/format used to make the compressed copy.
As far as I've read, and to my ears what changes is the dynamic range, the blackness, the achievable resolution, the depth, soundstage, and layering of what your system presents to you. It's still highly, highly, gear dependent.
I liken it to a playing field. We will use hockey arenas. There is Olympic sized (the largest), NHL sized (still big and great but not as large as Olympic) and the assorted random sizes you will find all across the US & Canada (various mp3 compression rates).
The game (music) is still the same across all the ice surfaces (file size/format) but the game is played differently (what we hear) according to each rink size.
I don't have a good analogy for headphones vs speakers but its like another playing field. Headphones are by nature a smaller listening area so you have less of an area space wise to focus on and identify soundstage, depth, instrument placement, etc.
If you listen to the same track on your 2ch system. Tidal will present the details in a different arrangement then Spotify, then Amazon, then Pandora, then Qobuz, etc. The lead singer is still front and center, the guitars are left, the drums are right, etc.
To my ears the difference really comes into play in the details. Where is the drum placed, how is it separated, do backing vocal sound like they are back and to the left of the lead singer or do they sound like they are huddled right behind him/her. Does the piano sound front and to the right, or does it sound hidden behind the drums and cymbals. If you signal out one part, or key item, you can hear it amongst all versions.
As mentioned above dynamic range is also hugely impacted. Most notably in songs that weren't compressed for radio play to begin with. Think classical here. It would be interesting to see a good db meter with a log/recording function measure two classical tracks from different services/formats, but have them be the same album/recording. I think I've seen this demonstrated before but can't remember where.
And gear also matters (probably most of all) in so much as you care about the nitty gritty details and want to extract the most detail from the recordings as you can.
On that last note, I had a realization tonight. I'm done buying expensive or mid priced beer/whisky. I'm going to buy cheap hooch that I like and spend the difference on quality gear.
And I didn't even get into coaxial, toslink, USB. Or digital cables and transmission hardware.
Just enjoy your music..We are all hearing the same stuff, just differently, not better or worse... No losers, all winners.
As far as I've read, and to my ears what changes is the dynamic range, the blackness, the achievable resolution, the depth, soundstage, and layering of what your system presents to you. It's still highly, highly, gear dependent.
I liken it to a playing field. We will use hockey arenas. There is Olympic sized (the largest), NHL sized (still big and great but not as large as Olympic) and the assorted random sizes you will find all across the US & Canada (various mp3 compression rates).
The game (music) is still the same across all the ice surfaces (file size/format) but the game is played differently (what we hear) according to each rink size.
I don't have a good analogy for headphones vs speakers but its like another playing field. Headphones are by nature a smaller listening area so you have less of an area space wise to focus on and identify soundstage, depth, instrument placement, etc.
If you listen to the same track on your 2ch system. Tidal will present the details in a different arrangement then Spotify, then Amazon, then Pandora, then Qobuz, etc. The lead singer is still front and center, the guitars are left, the drums are right, etc.
To my ears the difference really comes into play in the details. Where is the drum placed, how is it separated, do backing vocal sound like they are back and to the left of the lead singer or do they sound like they are huddled right behind him/her. Does the piano sound front and to the right, or does it sound hidden behind the drums and cymbals. If you signal out one part, or key item, you can hear it amongst all versions.
As mentioned above dynamic range is also hugely impacted. Most notably in songs that weren't compressed for radio play to begin with. Think classical here. It would be interesting to see a good db meter with a log/recording function measure two classical tracks from different services/formats, but have them be the same album/recording. I think I've seen this demonstrated before but can't remember where.
And gear also matters (probably most of all) in so much as you care about the nitty gritty details and want to extract the most detail from the recordings as you can.
On that last note, I had a realization tonight. I'm done buying expensive or mid priced beer/whisky. I'm going to buy cheap hooch that I like and spend the difference on quality gear.
And I didn't even get into coaxial, toslink, USB. Or digital cables and transmission hardware.
Just enjoy your music..We are all hearing the same stuff, just differently, not better or worse... No losers, all winners.
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Paladin79
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This morn I am testing some 6dj8/Ecc88's and 6922's in a Vali 2 but I have to be careful not to leave one laying around. They make a much better cat toy than the 6sn7. My daughter's cat, Finnegan. The first time a pinched waist Amperex hits the floor it may be time for Finnegan's wake. 
Delays are OK- but only if next week the UNISON USB is to be released!
Cheers!
Johan
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