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Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up

Discussion in 'Jason Stoddard' started by jason stoddard, Jan 23, 2014.
  1. RickB
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  2. Mizicke5273

    I know I am awaiting the next version of the Loki, bigger and full of more awesome! It is the #1 piece of audio gear that I am waiting for.
     
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  3. US Blues
    We'll make sure you get a hat when they're ready.
     
  4. claybomb
    @Jason Stoddard
    You claimed Rag 1 was the best amplifier you knew how to make back when it released. Was that your goal with Rag 2 or is it simply to have a competitive integrated in your lineup after introducing more specialized options (dedicated speaker vs dedicated headphone) with various topologies?
     
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  5. Jason Stoddard
    The goal for Ragnarok 2? Simple. To make a much better amplifier than Ragnarok.

    Sorry, it basically isn't any more than that.

    As always, there is no conspiracy.
     
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  6. Rensek
    Oof I want Rag 2 and I don't even have the transducers for it. Would HD6xx and lores be worth buying rag 2.
     
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  7. mp29k
    I am a bit biased, because those are the same components I have, and I don't think you would be out of line powering them with a component the cost of Rag2 (assuming it comes in close in price to Rag1). The Tekton Lore and the HD6XX are both known to be very high performing for their low price products. Also, with electronics, I don't see the worry of spending more, as you will be getting the most out of your transducers. The other way around, very high cost transducers with low priced electronics, I don't agree that is the best way to spend money (despite common recommendation), as often lower priced electronics are noisy, or have other technical issues that will definitely be apparent in higher priced transducers. I say go for it.
     
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  8. Rensek
    Yeah, I was very drawn to rag 1, but no remote kept me away. Rag 2 with remote, and 128 stepped relay, and a shielded transformer have me very intrigued. I keep reading that transformer quality plays an immense role in how good an amp is.

    I'm very happy with vidar and saga now, and I even dipped my toes into tube rolling other day. Some tubes coming all the way from Russia.

    It will be interesting to see how the price and reviews all shake out. Rag has been that pedestal item, and the pedestal now seems more alluring.
     
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  9. rkw
    Just speaking for myself :)
     
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  10. Rensek
    Haha, yeah me too right now. First things first. Establish need/want. Then determine how to pay for it/how long will it take to save, and what can I do as a side hustle.
     
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  11. ashirin
    @Rensek just curious, would you sell your Saga/Vidar combo if you bought a Rag 2?

    Given that you have very efficient speakers, I think it makes perfect sense to question if a Ragnarok would be a better solution for you since you also use headphones.
    That being said... you might consider an upgrade to the HD 6XX :sweat_smile: Not that there is anything wrong with them... I own them and love them actually, and I think they sound better with higher-end amplifiers. Still though, I think generally, the transducer makes the biggest difference in the sound (not to mention the experience overall when you consider things like comfort), and if you're chasing audio quality, you can get it with better headphones in my opinion much easier than you can with a better headphone amp (assuming the amp has enough power to drive your headphones, but even a Magni 3 will do that with the vast majority of headphones).

    Personally, if the Ragnarok solution was tickling my fancy, in your situation, I'd wait until there was enough in the budget for Rag 2 and a headphone upgrade at the same time (or shortly after). Or forget all that and get it anyways because it will make you happy. Personally, I think the Ragnarok 2 is gorgeous and that's worth something on its own.
     
  12. Rensek
    I would consider selling it. Depends upon how fast I want to buy Ragnarok vs whether I want two expensive (to me) systems in my house. I just told another user privately, I think saga/vidar is awesome.

    Yeah I'd consider upgrading HPs at some point. One small step at a time. Hard to appreciate Ragnaroks improvement over Magni 3 if I sell the only decent HPs I own and have used with Magni 3 before letting rag have at em.

    Yes I love how it looks.
     
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  13. mp29k
    Tough opinion maybe on a site that dedicated itself to headphones, but I find the current pricing model for headphones in the mid to high end to be borderline offensive. I wish Schiit would get Into producing transducers just so they could disrupt that market as well.
     
  14. liamo
    I remember when I was five years old and drew the best crayon picture ever. Mom even told me so. So I’ve got that going for me and haven’t tried exceeding that in the last 54 years.
     
  15. valiant66
    Back in the day the hd600 and hd650 were pretty much the top of the line dynamic headphones. They were the standard against which all other headphones were compared, no matter how expensive. To this day that continues to be true. There is no real reason to downplay their quality, and they continue to hold their own against newer, more expensive models. There's also no reason to get rid of them, they will continue to be revealing of upstream quality and provide a solid baseline against which to compare any other headphones you may have.

    Personally I don't think it's as important to upgrade hd650s/hd6XXs as others might believe. They are damn fine headphones that do a stellar job of just that: being damn fine headphones.

    https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/very-important-sennheiser-hd-580-hd-600-and-hd-650
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