[judmarc]

 
but at the same time no delta-sigma device is genuinely bit-perfect due to dithering.

 
True.  I'll only add that even prior to the SDM step you're not technically "bit-perfect" (in my possibly mistaken understanding of the term) if you've done oversampling/interpolation.  You can still retain all the original samples (along with the newly interpolated ones) through the oversampling/interpolation step, though.

 

[Ableza]

"Unicorn format."  Brilliant. 

 

[Ableza]

   
True.  I'll only add that even prior to the SDM step you're not technically "bit-perfect" (in my possibly mistaken understanding of the term) if you've done oversampling/interpolation.  You can still retain all the original samples (along with the newly interpolated ones) through the oversampling/interpolation step, though.

That would be correct.

 

[Matias]

  How about we deal with the elephant in the room, before worrying about formats, hmm?

 
Sorry but what does that mean? Is the elphant PCM as the majority of the market? Or better mastering? Or high-res recordings as a whole? Or getting normal people to discover better quality audio? Or just Yggy that is late?
Thanks.

 

[jacal01]

So the elephant pooper scooper would be a high res I2S PCM ADC using something other than sigma-delta modulation?

 

[Eee Pee]

   
Sorry but what does that mean? Is the elphant PCM as the majority of the market? Or better mastering?

 
Mastering, where it all begins.
 
Good read again, Jason, thanks.

 

[Matias]

You are right, there was a link to it in the text:
 
And, the elephant in the room:
 

1. The most important part of a recording is the master—paying attention on that side will reap benefits beyond any format

 

[twinkle]

  So the elephant pooper scooper would be a high res I2S PCM ADC using something other than sigma-delta modulation?

I like the way you think

 
 
I'm still hoping to hear Mike and Jason's own definition of 'bit-perfect'... should we understand: no more quantization errors

?
so that there's no need for post-conversion filtering..?

 

[jacal01]

Does this help?

 

[twinkle]

  Does this help?

I've read that

.
It seems to imply that reconstruction is perfect. I just want Mike and Jason to come out and say it

 

[jacal01]

No, Jason has actually said bit perfect multiple times, and his "true" bit perfect has set off a whole dialog on the definition of that, but I really don't care to root around for that post series.

 

[twinkle]

  No, Jason has actually said bit perfect multiple times, and his "true" bit perfect has set off a whole dialog on the definition of that, but I really don't care to root around for that post series.

that's ok, I've read all of it
still hoping to hear it from the horse's mouth!

 

[Tuco1965]

Schiit has horses?  

 

[jacal01]

It may have actually been on the New Schiit! Ragnarok and Yggdrasil thread.  My less than pornographic memory in combo with sundry sleep cycles fails me now... 

 

[jacal01]

  Schiit has horses?  

 
Well, yah...  Do yer think that it's always the other way around?