RSA * Dark Star * SE and balanced, dual chassis amp designed to drive most any HP . .

[Happy Camper]

This thread makes the value of a vintage receiver the steal of the day.

 

[Stevtt]

Wow, Dishonest?
 
Really?
 
Do you want to make that accusation in a public forum?
 
Anybody should be able to say what they want about equpment, disagree or even call someone to task on somthing  but outright attacks on a persons character is just bad form.
 
The ability to play well with others is a virtue.

 

[jamato8]

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Well Ray is as dishonest as they come (making his customers pay for his Paypal fees is just priceless) and the crap he tried to pull at CJ'10 just goes to show what kind of a character he really is.  That said I evaluate his products based on what I have in front of me but after being in the center of the whole Single Power mess I have zero tolerance for manufacturers pushing badly designed crap as "reference quality".  This doesn't just apply to Ray but he is certainly one of the worst offenders along with Rudistor.  Class B output stages or SRPP based amps which just barely function into one load are just the tip of the iceberg.  Dig deeper and you find shockingly bad power supply "design" and with the A-10, complete and utter lack of understanding on how you are supposed to handle tubes safely.  There he is in good company with Mikhail from Single Power...

On on it goes. Discussing different designs is fine, character assassination is another and has no place here. There are other forums that cater to this, hopefully HeadFi will rise above. 

 

[jude]

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...Well Ray is as dishonest as they come (making his customers pay for his Paypal fees is just priceless) and the crap he tried to pull at CJ'10 just goes to show what kind of a character he really is.  That said I evaluate his products based on what I have in front of me but after being in the center of the whole Single Power mess I have zero tolerance for manufacturers pushing badly designed crap as "reference quality".  This doesn't just apply to Ray but he is certainly one of the worst offenders along with Rudistor.  Class B output stages or SRPP based amps which just barely function into one load are just the tip of the iceberg.  Dig deeper and you find shockingly bad power supply "design" and with the A-10, complete and utter lack of understanding on how you are supposed to handle tubes safely.  There he is in good company with Mikhail from Single Power...

 
spritzer, you've absolutely crossed the line here, and, for this, you're now warned.  It's obviously personal with you (and a couple of others here), and this isn't the first time.  Last year, you wrongly and publicly accused another designer on Head-Fi here of stealing another company's design--a post that was subsequently deleted, and that the designer proved to you, me, and another moderator here (in private messages) that you were absolutely wrong about.
 
Ray Samuels Audio did not exhibit at CanJam 2010.  He hosted me and another Head-Fi'er at his house for dinner and lodging (and breakfast) the day before the show.  I have no idea what you are referring to, but what you're hinting about sounds like it has as much basis in fact as your aforementioned theft accusations.
 
For all your ability to be helpful (and you certainly can be that), you choose your moments to be equally spiteful (and you certainly can be that).
 
As others have noticed and posted in this thread, your issues with at least some of the people you go after are clearly personal.
 
For nearly ten years, Ray Samuels Audio has sold products to this community, has delivered his products on time, has supported his products extremely well (and almost always with quick turnaround), and who, as a result, has thousands of satisfied customers here (myself included).  Dishonest?  Hardly.
 
Again, consider this a public warning to what I consider another piece of publicly posted slander from you.

 

[Baird GoW]

imo he should be able to say whatever he wants, it's a public forum. if you think there is a chance he is telling the truth then ask him for proof... I myself don't usually pay attention to the stuff like that unless proof is given.

 

[jude]

 
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imo he should be able to say whatever he wants, it's a public forum...

Slanderous, unfounded character attacks?  Nope.  That may be okay on other forums, but this isn't one of them.

 

[estreeter]

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Slanderous, unfounded character attacks?  Nope.  That may be okay on other forums, but this isn't one of them.

You dont have to spend too long on other fora to realise how quickly it can descend into anarchy - I'm with Jude on this, even if I do have an issue with the Paypal thing (far from unfounded - I have Ray's email - but that has already been covered extensively in another thread).
 

 

[Baird GoW]

do you happen to know the thread by any chance (id love to see the excuses people have for having the paypal fee put on my end). i am always pissed when i have to pay their fees (*caugh* audio-gd). luckily when i purchased my sr71b from ray a few weeks ago he let me pay as gift
To bad my amp was broken and i had to use that money to send it back. i hope my new one gets here soon

 

[estreeter]

No - it will simply steer this thread further down a dark and dreary path. Its there if you look for it.

 

[Baird GoW]

that's why we have a private message system...

 

[winzzz]

would accuphase amp be as good as nelson pass for he6 and lcd2 kevin ?
 
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My dream amp for LCD2's, and likely he6's is still one of the nelson pass amplifiers. A perfectly matched
pair with a very black and silent noise floor. Or a dynahi,dynafet,B22

 

 

[dminches]

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do you happen to know the thread by any chance (id love to see the excuses people have for having the paypal fee put on my end). i am always pissed when i have to pay their fees (*caugh* audio-gd). luckily when i purchased my sr71b from ray a few weeks ago he let me pay as gift
To bad my amp was broken and i had to use that money to send it back. i hope my new one gets here soon

You were forced to buy something from him or anyone else?  Was this court ordered?  You can't dissect one component of someone's cost and call it unfair without looking at the total package.  He could increase the price by $10 for everyone and say paypal is free.  Would that be better?  The bottom line is that you can buy from anyone you want.  You don't "have" to do anything.
 

 

[Frank I]

Hopefully that will keep this thread civil now and we can look forward to Rob's unbiased thoughts on the products. What was being said here previously could be considered defamation and libel. Sometimes people do things without thinking.  Rob I look forward to your impressions on the RSA product.

 

[Syan25]

I've really enjoyed doing business with Ray and I look forward to Skylab's (Rob) review....
 
I know nothing about amp design - I am a professional musician - I trust my ears - and I love the two Ray Samuels amps that I own.  
 
I believe in forums and I believe in freedom of expression - but there is also responsibility...to throw accusations at someone without facts to back them up ...sounds just as dishonest to me...in fact, it sounds like there is an agenda behind such accusations...
 
Three cheers to the Dark Star!!! Let's get this back on track....
 
 

 

[jvlgato]

I also look forward to skylab's review. But I also very much value spritzer's input. Both are valued head-fi members, and both should be given a chance to say what they need to say. It's not like spritzer is a newb with no demonstrated technical knowledge. I've read many of his posts and have found him to be very helpful in the past.
 
I, for one, value hearing both sides of an argument. I feel that I have the ability to decide for myself what to believe, given the information at hand. Jude, I understand your need to moderate as a moderator. But I hope you will be specific about what you want spritzer to limit, and not just shut him down period, or ask him to just stop posting. I think you have to admit that he has vast technical knowledge, and that is a great asset to your forum.
 
I also will say that I missed seeing Ray at CJ 2010. I have no beef with him personally. In fact, every time I've met him, he's bought me pizza. So hey, what's not to like about that? But the bottom line is, people need to hear stuff for themselves. His absence last year at a major national headphone event was a disappointment, and it deprived people from being able to judge for themselves if they liked the sound coming out of his equipment.