[hennessys]

  Has anyone tried using V200 as a preamp? How did that turn out?

 
As far as i know it does not amp the signal, just runs it through.

 

[F1REStarter]

Okay, it's good to know you're not having any issues with the pairing. I didn't think it would anyway considering the LCD X's 22 ohm impedance, etc.

 

[roskodan]

got my lcd3 today, out of the v800 xlr to v200 combo it's like taking all the good stuff from the lcd2, hd800 and beyer t1 and putting it in one can, beautiful sounding !

 

[brat]

I see here many positive opinions on using V200 with audeze headphones. I find this combination far from neutral to the dark side unless you use the amp at its +12db setting. And still remains unnaturally dark. It's definitely not my choise for acoustic music, jazz, chamber or orchestral.

 

[roskodan]

the lcdz are supposed to be dark, being the king of darkness, just saying

 

[rmilewsk]

  I see here many positive opinions on using V200 with audeze headphones. I find this combination far from neutral to the dark side unless you use the amp at its +12db setting. And still remains unnaturally dark. It's definitely not my choise for acoustic music, jazz, chamber or orchestral.

Trust me. The darkness is not with the V200. 

 

[brat]

  Trust me. The darkness is not with the V200. 

Yes, but LCDs need more airy/clinical frontend instead the mellow V200. They become more energetic witch V200 at +12db but still not a good combo for people who listen to acoustic music. Right now I'm listening to Parov Stelar with LCD-2.2+v200 and it's OK but any well mastered orchestral music is veiled and congested.
I'm saying this to prevent disappointments of people who listen mainly to jazz or classical.

 

[roskodan]

interesting, i find on the v800 xlr v200 that the lcd2 is actually best suited for jazz and acoustic folk and slower rock, as well as for classical despite the simpler sound stage
 
most of the audiophiles actively engaged in classical and canonical music strongly agreed that the pairing was excellent, for tonal accuracy and presence
 
i had the lcd2, sold them cos they were a little slow and mellow for high octane metal, but missed them really bad, so i got the lcd3, and they really fixed the slow aspect of the 2, and add a ton of detail and a really good soundstage, toe to toe with the hd800, and plus the overall sound is something really beautiful, liquid, dark but at the same time tons of detail, separation, resolution, and the tone is just perfect
 
now i'm really interested to know what is your setup, source interconnections etc... and is the v200 at default settings, did you get it 2nd hand?
 
cos with the v800 xlr to v200 the lcds are really loud and fast as it gets... +6 and +12 would be to much in my setup
 
and if you are into electronica, 8bit, and such, i find the v800 xlr v200 lcd2 to be really good, and the lcd3 are just magic
 

 

[tyom86]

roskodan, hello
How V200-V800 combo with HD 650? (speed and depth bass for techno, trance, space for ambient..)
 
I really don't know what to buy: V200 or Burson Soloist for 650 and, may be LCD2 or HD800 sometime :\
 
 

 

[roskodan]

this is hard for me cos i haven't listened to the burson
 
read this
 
http://www.headfonia.com/burson-vs-violectric-conductor-vs-v200v800/
 
 
 

 

[project86]

I'd say this was a matter of preference - one person says "liquid" and loves what he hears. Another person hears the same thing, calls it slow or dark, and doesn't care for it. We all hear things differently and we all have our own expectations about what we'd like our gear to do. 

 

[brat]

  interesting, i find on the v800 xlr v200 that the lcd2 is actually best suited for jazz and acoustic folk and slower rock, as well as for classical despite the simpler sound stage
 
most of the audiophiles actively engaged in classical and canonical music strongly agreed that the pairing was excellent, for tonal accuracy and presence
 
i had the lcd2, sold them cos they were a little slow and mellow for high octane metal, but missed them really bad, so i got the lcd3, and they really fixed the slow aspect of the 2, and add a ton of detail and a really good soundstage, toe to toe with the hd800, and plus the overall sound is something really beautiful, liquid, dark but at the same time tons of detail, separation, resolution, and the tone is just perfect
 
now i'm really interested to know what is your setup, source interconnections etc... and is the v200 at default settings, did you get it 2nd hand?
 
cos with the v800 xlr to v200 the lcds are really loud and fast as it gets... +6 and +12 would be to much in my setup
 
and if you are into electronica, 8bit, and such, i find the v800 xlr v200 lcd2 to be really good, and the lcd3 are just magic
 

My system is:
All components are fed by Furman Elite 16 PFEi power conditioner
PC (Win 8 64bit; JRiver MC18)---->
Proel Die Hard firewire cable---->
Weiss DAC202U---->
Van den Hul The Second XLR or Eagle Cable Condor Blue MC 3.1 RCA (depends on my mood, the latter compensates part of the darkness)---->
Violectric HPA V200.

 

[roskodan]

 XLR Output
8.15Vrms +20.44 dBu with a 0 dBFS sinewave input
4.15Vrms +14.57 dBu with a 0 dBFS sinewave input
2.12Vrms +7.74 dBu with a 0 dBFS sinewave input
1.06Vrms +2.72 dBu with a 0 dBFS sinewave input

on your dac you can choose between those settings for the xlr output, the v800 equivalent would be the 4.14V +14.57dBu, and with that setting the v200 should be good at 0dB pre-gain
 
other things you could check is that the dac volume is at 100% and that the v200 is at the default settings, AC operation and main ground set to LIFT

 

[brat]

  on your dac you can choose between those settings for the xlr output, the v800 equivalent would be the 4.14V +14.57dBu, and with that setting the v200 should be good at 0dB pre-gain
 
other things you could check is that the dac volume is at 100% and that the v200 is at the default settings, AC operation and main ground set to LIFT

Thank you, I'll check with these settings and report here
Now I'm listening the weiss with volume bypassed and at 1.06Vrms +2.72 dBu.
And how can I set the AC operation and main ground of V200?

 

[roskodan]

no wonder you need +12 pre-gain, set the v200 at 0dB pre-gain and rise your dac to +14dBu with the volume bypassed or at 100%
 
but remember to set the v200 pre-gain at 0dBu first to avoid distortion clipping etc.
 
i found that leaving the v200 at the default 0dB pre-gain and rise or lower the source instead yield more consistent results, you can play with your dac settings and setup the sound to your taste, enjoy
 
edit: for checking the v200 is set to AC and ground to LIFT you need to open the device, search for instruction in the manual and i posted some howto posts too
 

  first turn off and unplug the power mains cables and all the other cables as well
 
for the v800 one should first remove the metal cylinder of the volume pot and the nut underneath it, that holds the pot to the case,
than the two hex, upper left and right screws on the front panel
than the four corners hex screws from the back panel
than slide the back panel (the pcb on which it's screwed on comes along) straight out about 5mm
than lift the upper cover starting from the back
 
for the v200 lift the two hex, upper left and right screws on the front panel
than the four corners hex screws from the back panel
than slide the back panel (the pcb on which it's screwed on comes along) straight out about 5mm (not more cos there's a patch cable holding the pcb to the pot and the front panel)
than lift the upper cover starting from the back
 
enjoy messing with all the configurable settings