First of all, thank you ALL for your very kind comments! I truly, truly, appreciate it. I've just woken up and looked over a couple pages of posts, and I hope I did not miss any actual questions - these are the ones I caught.
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skylab, thanks for sharing the insightful observations. i do have one question...
well, maybe two. first, are the "hot treble" consistent in using all of your various
sources or are they more salient with specific type of recording? two, how does
it compare to the infamous treble spike of the grado gs1000? thanks in advance.
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The treble performance was consistent across sources, although it was less noticeable on my vinyl rig, which is not surprising, as it does have a softer treble than my digital sources do. As for recordings, this is the trickier but to catch. Some recordings that have a soft treble to begin with sound BETTER with the HD800's tipped-up treble. But this is STILL an "editorialization" by the HD800. There were some recordings that I know are neutral that sounded a little edgy with the HD800, and of course recordings that already had an over-emphasized treble sounded worse.
As for the GS1000, I bought and sold mine long ago, but the HD800's treble is different from the GS1000's. The GS1000 was a less neutral headphone in general, and the Grado treble is more annoying than the HD800.
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I have two questions I would like to formulate based on what I have read so far:
- Could you quantify more accurately the bass extension of the HD800... Do the bass goes as low as 20Hz effortlessly. You can always have different opinions regarding bass quality (some prefer the weight or slam that most closed headphone offer or even HD650, other will like it fast and tight like K501/K701/Electrostatic), but objective measure of the bass extension would be nice to know how much quantity they offer.
- My second concern is regarding the imaging capability of the HD800. There has been already many impressions shared of a "diffuse" sound, with voices more spread than what would be natural... Bottom line: do the size of the soundstage is achieved sacrifying pinpoint imaging of the different emisive sources.
Thanks
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I did not actually measure them in this regard - I will do that and report back. But reproducing very low bass in music was no problem for the HD800.
I did not find the HD800 to have a problem with image specificity at all. The soundstage is big, but I found it to be quite accurate.
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A couple of questions, if you have the time:
* Are the 800s mean head clampers (like the 650s)?
* How do the 800 compare to the Markl modded Denon 500s?
* Most of us have more than one pair of headphones, to cover as wide a range of music as possible. Which do you think are the complements of the 800? That is, if you had the 800s, which 1 or 2 other headphones would you have in your line-up to cover the widest range? And which music would you then reserve for the 800s and which not?
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I found the HD800's more comfortable than I found the HD650's, which despite being light and circumaural I never thought were as comfortable as they should be. The 800's are better.
I wish I had a pair of Markl D5000 to compare, but I would certainly say the two are quite different. From memory, they are closer to the DX1000 in sound than the HD800, but the DX1000 were better, IMO.
And actually, I think the DX1000 and the HD800 would make a great pairing if one were to have two high-end cans. The main reason I am not buying the HD800 is not that it did not outperform the DX1000 - it is that I did not feel it was enough better than the Beyer DT880 to justify the expense, as it would be the 880 that the HD800 would have "replaced" in my lineup, not the DX1000 (which I use in a setting where a close can is required).