Jul 31, 2013 at 11:57 AM Post #2,131 of 7,021
people are different and so are their tastes and ears.
 
i would not blame someone for not liking particular product, unless there is purported attempt to bash product without merits. honest opinions are always welcome no matter my agreement or disagreement with them.
 
NB: funny, something happened with font ...
 
Jul 31, 2013 at 12:13 PM Post #2,132 of 7,021
Jul 31, 2013 at 12:37 PM Post #2,134 of 7,021
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But people told me that the impact is less than FX700 by a bit (slightly). You have or had FX700 too. Perhaps you can share you opinion on this?

 
The IE800's bass is more about rumble than impact. The FX700 is pure, very concentrated impact.
 
Jul 31, 2013 at 12:39 PM Post #2,135 of 7,021
I've been doing a lot of reading on the G-2 since I'm expecting mine to come soon. When I compare Rin's analysis to everything I've read it just feels wrong. Something isn't right... It makes me a bit sad reading his thoughts and conclusions.

(I guess it's a good thing I also have a pair of UE900 on the way which are supposed to be superb with blocked pinholes and 100 Ohms of added impedance.)
 
Jul 31, 2013 at 12:39 PM Post #2,136 of 7,021
It's entirely a different kind of bass character. The FX700 has a midbass emphasis with, to me a very sharp and powerful attack and a comparatively longer decay there. The IE800 has a very slanted subbass to midbass emphasis with a lot of weight on the very low end rumble. It keeps clear of the mids more.

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The IE800's bass is more about rumble than impact. The FX700 is pure, very concentrated impact.


Aaaaaand he beats me to it, more succinctly no less.
 
Jul 31, 2013 at 12:44 PM Post #2,138 of 7,021
I've been doing a lot of reading on the G-2 since I'm expecting mine to come soon. When I compare Rin's analysis to everything I've read it just feels wrong. Something isn't right... It makes me a bit sad reading his thoughts and conclusions.

(I guess it's a good thing I also have a pair of UE900 on the way which are supposed to be superb with blocked pinholes and 100 Ohms of added impedance.)


Personally just looking at the frequency response charts, I can at least say I heard 200hz - 11khz just about how it's graphed there.

Edited: down to 200, my mistake.
 
Jul 31, 2013 at 12:49 PM Post #2,139 of 7,021
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Personally just looking at the frequency response charts, I can at least say I heard 500hz - 11khz just about how it's graphed there.

 
Yeah, but I'm not sure about the rest of it. 
 
I know Aurisonics did their own measurements, I'm wondering what their FR graphs look like now....
 
Jul 31, 2013 at 1:06 PM Post #2,140 of 7,021
Mids and treble measure as I'd expect them to, the treble isn't forward as people say it is, still controlled and restrained, but not restrained to the point where it becomes problematic  The bass on the other hand...  Well, that's what looks odd to me. 
 
Jul 31, 2013 at 1:14 PM Post #2,141 of 7,021
Mids and treble measure as I'd expect them to, the treble isn't forward as people say it is, still controlled and restrained, but not restrained to the point where it becomes problematic  The bass on the other hand...  Well, that's what looks odd to me. 


It'd be pretty terrible if this pair was somehow defective just like Tyll's. I have to say though that I heard the bass to sound pretty much like the graph. I don't think if would sound as rolled off as it looks, since the mids and highs are comparatively less emphasized. The bass at 60Hz looks to be about as emphasized as the mids peak.
 
Jul 31, 2013 at 1:15 PM Post #2,142 of 7,021
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Mids and treble measure as I'd expect them to, the treble isn't forward as people say it is, still controlled and restrained, but not restrained to the point where it becomes problematic  The bass on the other hand...  Well, that's what looks odd to me. 

 
Exactly. A 20db drop off below 100hz? 
 
Please.
 
Jul 31, 2013 at 1:17 PM Post #2,143 of 7,021
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Mids and treble measure as I'd expect them to, the treble isn't forward as people say it is, still controlled and restrained, but not restrained to the point where it becomes problematic  The bass on the other hand...  Well, that's what looks odd to me. 

 
The problem with the treble is the roll off, which it isn't. It is more extended than that. Most of it is OK, but dropping off before 20k is definitely not the case. 
 
And yeah, the bass is definitely head scratching. 
 
Jul 31, 2013 at 1:24 PM Post #2,144 of 7,021
Exactly. A 20db drop off below 100hz? 

Please.


Well the drivers aren't matching, and the better driver with less roll off isn't so bad. Would you say that if both drivers measured like the good one then it'd look closer to what you're hearing?
 
Jul 31, 2013 at 1:39 PM Post #2,145 of 7,021
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Well the drivers aren't matching, and the better driver with less roll off isn't so bad. Would you say that if both drivers measured like the good one then it'd look closer to what you're hearing?

 
I didn't notice the peach line. Yeah it's closer, but I clearly feel movement at 15hz, which isn't shown on the graph.
 

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