Project Ember Tube Rolling
Oct 20, 2017 at 2:19 AM Post #3,031 of 3,354
a shame to see this thread quite down, oh well... after removing the input gain attenuator I can say without a DOUBT the Ember II shreds with my HE 4! A clear step up from my NFB10ES2, getting an LCD 2.2 2012 Pre Fazor in here soon so I'm curious to see how it powers those!
 
Oct 21, 2017 at 6:39 PM Post #3,032 of 3,354
Even though I do not own the Ember II any longer I still think it is one of the best hybrid amps on the market for the $ spent. I owned the Ember I and Ember II. Fantastic. For me ultimately I just prefer an amp that has an actual case. The open style builds of Garage1217 are neat but not something I care to display. If they ever get around to adding a metal case to their amps I would gladly spend even more for another Ember. I doubt that will happen though.
 
Nov 24, 2017 at 12:15 PM Post #3,033 of 3,354
I just got a 6DJ8 Amperex Orange Globe for 25 quid including shipping. Looking forward to trying it out!
 
Dec 27, 2017 at 11:51 AM Post #3,034 of 3,354
Ok since this thread is DEAD, hopefully we can spark it up a bit.
I “may” be picking up a V2 ember. If not now, soon enough.

I have plenty of the EC88/6DJ8 variants along with the 2c51/5670. Also have a bunch of 6N3P-E and 6N3P-I

What adapters will I need to use these and are all compatible?

If anyone is using these, how do they sound on this amp? David A commented that he was getting some chanel imbalance with the 6DJ8 variants but did anyone else have these same issues or were they good for you?

I’m also a little concerned as I run with a LYR2 and obviously it uses 2 tubes. Using this amp will split my mostly balanced pairs and I really don’t want to buy anymore tubes as I have enough for a few lifetimes.
 
Dec 27, 2017 at 5:16 PM Post #3,035 of 3,354
I have plenty of the EC88/6DJ8 variants along with the 2c51/5670. Also have a bunch of 6N3P-E and 6N3P-I

What adapters will I need to use these and are all compatible?

If anyone is using these, how do they sound on this amp? David A commented that he was getting some chanel imbalance with the 6DJ8 variants but did anyone else have these same issues or were they good for you?

I’m also a little concerned as I run with a LYR2 and obviously it uses 2 tubes. Using this amp will split my mostly balanced pairs and I really don’t want to buy anymore tubes as I have enough for a few lifetimes.

Any ECC88/6DJ8/6922/7308 will work in the Ember. 7DJ8/PCC88 too. 12DJ8/8416 will not work since those are 12V tubes. I haven't had any channel imbalance issues when using 6DJ8s in my Sunrise except when there's a major imbalance in emissions or transconductance between the two triodes, but that's to be expected with any twin-triode.

I see 5670 to ECC88 adapters on eBay, but I've never heard of anyone using a 5670-type in a G1217 amp.
 
Dec 27, 2017 at 5:33 PM Post #3,036 of 3,354
Any ECC88/6DJ8/6922/7308 will work in the Ember. 7DJ8/PCC88 too. 12DJ8/8416 will not work since those are 12V tubes. I haven't had any channel imbalance issues when using 6DJ8s in my Sunrise except when there's a major imbalance in emissions or transconductance between the two triodes, but that's to be expected with any twin-triode.

I see 5670 to ECC88 adapters on eBay, but I've never heard of anyone using a 5670-type in a G1217 amp.

No channel imbalance for me either with a Project Starlight using 6DJ8, (6922, 7308) 6SN7, 6J5G 12AU--- and other varients. David A has some pretty nice gear and may also have mo betta ears than I do!!!
 
Dec 27, 2017 at 5:51 PM Post #3,037 of 3,354
Any ECC88/6DJ8/6922/7308 will work in the Ember. 7DJ8/PCC88 too. 12DJ8/8416 will not work since those are 12V tubes. I haven't had any channel imbalance issues when using 6DJ8s in my Sunrise except when there's a major imbalance in emissions or transconductance between the two triodes, but that's to be expected with any twin-triode.

I see 5670 to ECC88 adapters on eBay, but I've never heard of anyone using a 5670-type in a G1217 amp.
Thanx. I could be the first if the 5670/2C51 works because they’re excellent tubes. Better then most of the ECC88 while double/triple the cost of the 5670/2C51
 
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Dec 27, 2017 at 5:53 PM Post #3,038 of 3,354
Thanx. I could be the first if the 5670/2C51 works because they’re excellent tubes. Better then most of the ECC88 and double/triple the cost.
Thanks
I talk to David a lot and he said he hasn’t tried the other variants I mentioned and should probably reach out to Jeremy at Garage1217.
 
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Jan 11, 2018 at 3:07 PM Post #3,040 of 3,354
Loving this thread as a new Ember II owner. Currently only have the 12AU7 that came with the amp, but have 6SN7 and adapter and 6N30P on order and anxious to give them a try.
 
Jan 11, 2018 at 7:40 PM Post #3,041 of 3,354
Loving this thread as a new Ember II owner. Currently only have the 12AU7 that came with the amp, but have 6SN7 and adapter and 6N30P on order and anxious to give them a try.
You are one of the few that I've seen who has more DACs/amps than headphones :ksc75smile:, I think its time to get some balance in your life, add a headphone or two, or three......
 
Jan 11, 2018 at 8:58 PM Post #3,042 of 3,354
If anyone is out there (Hello?) and there may be a few of you, I did roll some tubes in the Ember that I don't believe anyone else has.
I've used the 2C51/5670/369A variants along with the 6N3P-E, 6N3P-I variants. They sound really good but can be susceptible to a bit of noise. I personally didn't hear any channel imbalance though which is a good thing. Not a lot of noise but you can hear it with no music. The 2C51 have micro small plates and from what I was told by Jeremy from Garage is the noise could be more so than later dual triode designs with larger plates. Of course you'll need the 6N3 to ECC88 adapter. If you have them on hand, give them a try. It's just another tube that in my opinion are great, can tweak your sound even that much more.

The Tun Sol 5670/2C51's are incredible tubes that punch so far above their price point and you can get a pair that test excellently (NOS) for about $35 off of eBay. If you have $35 to "test" out some new tubes that I believe you'll like a lot if a little noise doesn't kill it for you, give it a shot fella's, or gals.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Pair-T...050232&hash=item234d514b89:g:lMYAAOSwrklVBlJC

Quite a few guys on the LYR tube rolling thread including I, have snatched these up and like them. I can only speak for myself but they have such a holographic, mid forward sound that is sublime. They've sounded really good in the Ember too.
 
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Jan 11, 2018 at 10:04 PM Post #3,043 of 3,354
You are one of the few that I've seen who has more DACs/amps than headphones :ksc75smile:, I think its time to get some balance in your life, add a headphone or two, or three......
Don't give up yet -- I do have a couple more on my radar - the Aeon Flows and Audeze El-8C
 

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