[kanonathena]

I'm looking to upgrade from my nano4 to something much better with a huge soundstage.
 
My preference in order of importance
 
- soundstage, imaging (seperation and placement)
- details and cleaness / good UI like nano4 where I can select songs in any album within seconds, total responsiveness
 
other than these I like natural sound sig (or even cold) for orchestral music so sony is out of question. How does a good DAP compared to a laptop in soundstage these days? nano4 is really weak in this aspect.
 
Thanks.
 
edit: I don't use amps

 

[Tiges]

Why sony is out of question? Sony x sounds definitely neutral and sound stage is really impressive.

 

[krismusic]

IMHO. The Sony X 1060 is a warm sounding player.

 

[Young Spade]

I would have suggested the T51/s:flo2 but the UI isn't up to par and since that seems to be one strong point for you, it might be out of the question. Amazing player though.

 

[kanonathena]

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Why sony is out of question? Sony x sounds definitely neutral and sound stage is really impressive.

 
I have read reviews saying sony x is very warm with very narrow soundstage compared to ipods.
 
http://www.headfonia.com/?p=2783
 
 
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I would have suggested the T51/s:flo2 but the UI isn't up to par and since that seems to be one strong point for you, it might be out of the question. Amazing player though.

 
I have done massive research on this player, in the end I have to decide against it. Do you think it is in part because of a bad touch screen?

 

 

[Young Spade]

The touch screen is great and very sensitive.... I love mine... and personally I don't have any problems with the UI really...

 

[Hero Kid]

Have you looked at the Cowon J3? It might just fit the bill...

 

[kanonathena]

Yes,  it seems J3 is the only viable option until I read some old thread saying Cowon D2 and S9 have small soundstage compared to ipods, seems like half a year ago people all agreed touch 2g has the best soundstage, then nano5 and classic. How does J3 compares to these?

 

[Tiges]

 
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Yes,  it seems J3 is the only viable option until I read some old thread saying Cowon D2 and S9 have small soundstage compared to ipods, seems like half a year ago people all agreed touch 2g has the best soundstage, then nano5 and classic.

Buhhahahahsa

ipod has best soundstage, ok bud buy yourself another ipod and live in the dream where ipods are the best sounding players and have best sound stage

 

[tyrael]

In term of soundstage, the s9 with BBE viva beat sony X and ipod. The soundstage of sony X is impressive but can't match s9 in soundstage depth.
And compare to s9, the sony X's sound is very warm

 

[ZARIM]

Sony A829, Cowon S9, Sony X1060, iPod Touch and iPhone 4G..........

 

[tds101]

Sony S639 & X Series, Cowon D2/S9, iPod 5.5G/classic/touch, Zune 30/80/120/HD, a RockBoxed DAP - each has a different sound stage depending on the HP's that one uses w/them. All are great under the right circumstances.

 

[DarkSleip]

I thought people on this forum should conscious enough to know that standard computer and iPod audio is garbage, the best choice for a reasonable price would be a cowon i10 or a j3, both have great and simple UI's

 

[dippyboy_87]

Rockbox seems to improve the soundstage on ipod by considerable amount.

 

[DarkSleip]

I know it's not so low-end as to say it is sonic garbage, but it still is on par with cheap computers and such when regarding SQ