Philips SHE3580 IEM review--how can something sound so good for $10???
Dec 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM Post #436 of 1,072
I'm a/bing these with the Monoprice 8320s and these a tad bit more clarity, deeper bass, and more forward mids. The only thing the 8320s has over these is the sparkle. This is a steal at $7 in TJ Maxx.
 
Dec 3, 2012 at 12:29 PM Post #437 of 1,072
I just got a pair of these in. Wow. I usually listen to classical music while working with my Yuin Pk3's. I believe that I prefer these. I never thought I would say that. There is a sense of transparency with classical music that may overcome the Yuin's in some ways. I need to listen more. But, these guys are excellent with classical music. There is body, depth and clarity. The highs may be a bit? less refined than I like. But, they are not harsh in anyway. I mean we are talking about an 8 dollar IEM here. Good stuff and thanks for the suggestion. I still prefer my Sony MH1c by a fairly large margin. But, these are great.
Do these benefit from burn in at all?
 
EDIT: Wow... I just tamed the bass and treble down a bit and they are really starting to shine.
 
Dec 4, 2012 at 6:39 AM Post #439 of 1,072
Yeah those are the ones
 
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Dec 4, 2012 at 5:28 PM Post #441 of 1,072
Hi I'm new here.
 
I'm probably considered a neophyte here -
however I have long favored listening on headphones - that is back to the days when they were those big clunky things that covered ones ears.

Eventually I purchased a pair of the now legendary Sony MDR-V6 - after reading Consumer Reports sometime around the mid '80s, just after they first came out.  They may be a bit too bright for my current tastes, but still sound really good, with good but not intrusive extended bass - and those had been my benchmark since.

I flirted with various earbuds because I like the compact carrying size and by taking advantage of the ear cavity - those tiny speakers can manage to produce such good bass, mids and highs weren't much of a problem - but obviously there were plenty that were pretty brittle and harsh, especially at the low price end.

However I found the Philips HE591 which became the SHE5910 - and I really liked them - seemed for the low price pretty well balanced with good bass extension - I thought I may have preferred them over my Sony MDR-V6.

Then I found Head-Fi.org and am extremely grateful for ljokerl Multi-IEM Review.

So I tried those highly recommended bottom priced IEMs -
first the Brainwavz Beta - they were everything the review said they were and I could tell they were better than the Philips SHE5910 that I had been using (but not by much for my ears).

Just when I was getting used to the Brainwavz Beta - everyone started talking about the Monoprice 8320 - what at $7-8?  WoW! I just had to try those - in fact bought two pairs just because it worked out cheaper that way (at just over $8 each shipped) - and yes, another incremental improvement - although they were even more sensitive to microphonics - but wearing over-ear helped mitigate that - they weren't bad - but less comfortable.  But hey! great sound quality for $8?

Hardly catching my breath, when I saw people talking about these Philips SHE3580 - and found this thread.

So I had to try a pair, found some for $6 shipped....

Boy! am I impressed (no EQ) - the bass extension/sub-bass is unbelievable at almost any price, much less for a $6 pair of IEMs.

The Philips SHE3580 actually revealed that the test track I had been using to compare headphones did not have much sub-bass!  "The Lazarus Heart" by Sting from "Nothing Like the Sun" CD. [Correction - only partially true - I normally use the first 1:37 of the track and although there is good bass, there is no sub-bass.  However on the track at about 2:39 on when the kick drum comes in there is plenty of sub-bass]

I found fairly quickly a great live recording downloadable (free & legal) from Archive.org that had plenty of bass extension - Robert Walter's 20th Congress Live at The Boom Boom Room on 2007-10-11 - tracks are available in Flac as well as vbr2 mp3.  If you don't want to wade through all the tracks try this short one: Almendra (4:53) -  30.9 MB (Flac) or 7.2 MB (vbr2 mp3) - the bass by Chris Stillwell along with Eric Kalb's bass drum are great, with easy extension into sub-bass.

I was so impressed I bought another 2 pairs just for back-up -
yeah, I know.... big spender!

Thank you to Joe Bloggs for this thread and also to Dsnuts discovery thread - for making me aware of these Philips SHE3580
 
Thanks,
--
Vincent
 
Dec 4, 2012 at 7:24 PM Post #442 of 1,072
Please pardon me if this was asked before, does the Philips SHE3575 (with mic) and SHE3580 has the same audio output? And if you will compare the Sony MH-1C, which one is the best? (Overall build / sound quality)
 
Dec 5, 2012 at 12:16 PM Post #444 of 1,072
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Please pardon me if this was asked before, does the Philips SHE3575 (with mic) and SHE3580 has the same audio output? And if you will compare the Sony MH-1C, which one is the best? (Overall build / sound quality)

 
As far as I know all the SHE35xx have the same sound.  The only exception is the SHH3580, the mic'd version of the 3580, which seems to have less bass.
 
I think the MH1C's sound is much superior (especially if you EQ down its bass), but the SHE35xx have two advantages:
1. Apparently no one knows how to deal with the MH1C's j-cord flat cable :facepalm: I personally don't have that big an issue with it but I can see how it can get on some people's nerves.
2. The SHE3580 is vented on the ear canal side, preventing a potentially uncomfortable vacuum seal and potentially offering a more open sound.
 
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Dec 6, 2012 at 1:45 AM Post #445 of 1,072
How is sound stage compared to the other generally recommended lower priced IEMs (Sony MH1c, JVC fx40, Monoprice 8320, etc.)? Any issue with fakes for these (probably not given the price)? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/PHILIPS-IN-SHE3580-2-3-4-IN-EAR-SPORT-BASS-HEADPHONE-MULTICOLOR?item=221096693722&cmd=ViewItem The one's I can find on Amazon.ca are considerably more expensive. Otherwise not sure where else to look for these in Canada.
 
Dec 7, 2012 at 6:34 AM Post #446 of 1,072
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How is sound stage compared to the other generally recommended lower priced IEMs (Sony MH1c, JVC fx40, Monoprice 8320, etc.)? Any issue with fakes for these (probably not given the price)? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/PHILIPS-IN-SHE3580-2-3-4-IN-EAR-SPORT-BASS-HEADPHONE-MULTICOLOR?item=221096693722&cmd=ViewItem The one's I can find on Amazon.ca are considerably more expensive. Otherwise not sure where else to look for these in Canada.

 
1. Soundstage is just not something I'm comfortable commenting on.  To me there's loudspeaker soundstage and then there's headphone soundstage.  I can't tell much difference even between IEMs and circumaural open cans.
 
2. No reports of fakes.
 
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Dec 7, 2012 at 8:31 AM Post #447 of 1,072
just bought one and i have tm says it's great for the price

i find the drum beats a little uncontrolled, uses higher volume and narrower than my ie7. but that's right out the box, at prices like this it's essentially guilt free
 
Dec 7, 2012 at 11:31 AM Post #448 of 1,072
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just bought one and i have tm says it's great for the price
i find the drum beats a little uncontrolled, uses higher volume and narrower than my ie7. but that's right out the box, at prices like this it's essentially guilt free

Good to hear some more impressions, I figured it was 12 bucks so why not
 
Dec 10, 2012 at 1:20 AM Post #450 of 1,072
i had philips 3570 for two weeks now. I found this simple mod to increase soundstage, here:put stock tips on different iem tips to make it longer like this>
 

 
 after mod it increase soundstage wide, if i equalize the bass down the soundstage get better and maybe on par with my monoprice 8320, very nice!
 
 

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