[Jonfairway]

at $129  they are a real steal !!!
 
nothing to touch them at that price 

 

[wolfjeanne]

Wonder if this is a clearance sale leading up to a new model in a few months... That'd be interesting for sure.

 

[ultraman31]

I just received the L2 from newegg and looked at the manual that show the freq range from 6 - 28,000Hz. Then I found out that on Massdrop page shows the freq range from 6 - 40,000. So, I went to Philips website and found that it is from 6 - 40,000. One from Newegg and Massdrop is Philips L2BO/27 and the specs is Philips L2BO/00 (http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/L2BO_00/fidelio-fidelio-headphones-with-mic/specifications). I'm not sure anyone asked this in previous thread, but anyone know why and what happened?

 

[oryan_dunn]

The /XX are Philips country codes. /00 is the global code. /27 and /28 are for the US.

 

[Head1]

The L2s were $120 on Massdrop  a month ago and I expect them to be at this price now and again.
 
Excellent bargain for US folk.

 

[ThomasHK]

  I just received the L2 from newegg and looked at the manual that show the freq range from 6 - 28,000Hz. Then I found out that on Massdrop page shows the freq range from 6 - 40,000. So, I went to Philips website and found that it is from 6 - 40,000. One from Newegg and Massdrop is Philips L2BO/27 and the specs is Philips L2BO/00 (http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/L2BO_00/fidelio-fidelio-headphones-with-mic/specifications). I'm not sure anyone asked this in previous thread, but anyone know why and what happened?

Hi-Res audio happened. 

 

[wolfjeanne]

  Hi-Res audio happened. 

Could you explain?
It's not like humans can actually hear those frequencies anyway.
 
Left my L2's at a friends place by accident by the way, and said she could try them until I got them back. Now she wants to buy her own pair

 

[oryan_dunn]

  Could you explain?
It's not like humans can actually hear those frequencies anyway.
 
Left my L2's at a friends place by accident by the way, and said she could try them until I got them back. Now she wants to buy her own pair

 
Hi Res happened as in people think they need it...
 
So before, they only tested to 20ish khz, but now, people expect higher, so they test higher...
 
I guess it's important for when their dog wears them...

 

[ThomasHK]

   
Hi Res happened as in people think they need it...
 
So before, they only tested to 20ish khz, but now, people expect higher, so they test higher...
 
I guess it's important for when their dog wears them...

Yup, pretty much what Ryan said. How's things by the way  
 
The JAS requirements for the Hi-Res logo required the headphone brands to come up with methods to measure up to 40kHz and certify that the headphones are able to produce those frequencies. There's no standard headphone measurement that supports that. HATS, 711, 318, etc... only measure up to 12-14 kHz, after that it's not relevant data. As far as I know, most companies are just measuring the drivers in a baffle, not in the headphones to come up with those >20 kHz figures. Sony has been working on a measurement similar to HATS that supports higher frequencies, but it's not based on solid evidence that that represents what reaches the real human eardrum. 
 
TL;DR: if you see brands quote figures > 20 kHz, it's either ********, marketing spin or the result of a driver baffle measurement. 

 

[apaar123]

Are they better than hd 598?

 

[wolfjeanne]

Are they better than hd 598?

Define better...
The L2's have a less wide soundstage, but a more dynamic sound. Their mids are darker sounding which gives nice timbre to male vocalists but gives less breathing space.They are somewhat less comfortable, but with better materials and better looking (IMHO). You take some you lose some... See if you can find a place where you can listen for yourself. For a large part it's a personal prefrence, but I prefer the L2's by a decent margin.

 

[apaar123]

Differences between l2 and l1?

 

[wolfjeanne]

Differences between l2 and l1?

Apart from the minor cosmetic differences: the L1 is darker sounding with less detail and a somewhat narrower soundstage. The L2 is better in almost every way except if you're really after that dark sound.

 

[ThomasHK]

 
Apart from the minor cosmetic differences: the L1 is darker sounding with less detail and a somewhat narrower soundstage. The L2 is better in almost every way except if you're really after that dark sound.

Yeah, what he said. The modifications to the driver and improved tuning really make the L2 a much better headphone than the L1. Highly recommended!

 

[apaar123]

how do these compare to x2?