Gouki
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You make it sound like Apple innovated the computer, where a great deal of others have done the exact same thing. PCs aren't typically sold as an package because of their ability to be configured in so many different ways, its limitless. Techies understand this so well, if there was a perfect headphone that could be used anywhere at anytime on anything then please show me. There is nothing that comes out of the factory the way everybody wants it, that's why people have to tinker with headphones, computers and cars just to get the right configuration.
But if you seriously do not know where to start then get what the companies recommend you with their all-in-one packages. I'd rather get a cheaper system and more software including free ones that does the job.
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I think you're missing the point, a great deal of our products are indeed made in China, but nothing compares to the incredible markups that Apple puts on all their products. The old iPod cost less than $20 to make, it sold for 10 times as much. When an equivalent product comes out at $50 cheaper its not good enough because its not expensive.
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How can you tell me that Apple used to put all those things in their computers as a good thing, and none of it in their macs today as equally good? You seem to forget that Apple is such a company that jumps on every new technology created out there which is why they appear to be the first at having the ethernet, modem and so one. Apple tried to capitalise on proprietary stuff like firewire because they felt that the video industry will one day make it a standard and be rewarded financially for it (it didn't).
As for the crap that you think PC laptops have, well I like my built-in memory card reader, remote control, media control buttons, 3/4 USB ports, s-video out (yes I still connect to movie projectors and TVs) and 1920x1200 LCD screen on my 15.4" notebook.
I don't ever want unnecessary dongles and accessories sticking out of my USB ports like a Christmas tree except for external hard drives.
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Which begs the question, why being a software is it still so expensive?
| Originally Posted by Currawong /img/forum/go_quote.gif There's not much in a PC excepting games that the average person can leverage from a high-end graphics card. In Mac OS X, a great many programs can utilise the built-in graphics, video and audio subsystems extensively to produce highly functional applications. This translates to Macs being able to do a lot of things that can't easily or cheaply be done on PCs. Just have a look at what the various iLife '09 programs can do, then go and found out how much it would cost you in software to duplicate that on a PC, if you can at all. |
You make it sound like Apple innovated the computer, where a great deal of others have done the exact same thing. PCs aren't typically sold as an package because of their ability to be configured in so many different ways, its limitless. Techies understand this so well, if there was a perfect headphone that could be used anywhere at anytime on anything then please show me. There is nothing that comes out of the factory the way everybody wants it, that's why people have to tinker with headphones, computers and cars just to get the right configuration.
But if you seriously do not know where to start then get what the companies recommend you with their all-in-one packages. I'd rather get a cheaper system and more software including free ones that does the job.
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| Their cost of living is also considerably lower than in your country. You have to factor that into account. Anyhow, if you want to complain about the wages in China, stop buying, well, anything! Just about everything is made there nowadays. If it weren't, those people would be earning nothing. I think a good something is a lot better than nothing, and so do the majority of Chinese who had nothing before. |
I think you're missing the point, a great deal of our products are indeed made in China, but nothing compares to the incredible markups that Apple puts on all their products. The old iPod cost less than $20 to make, it sold for 10 times as much. When an equivalent product comes out at $50 cheaper its not good enough because its not expensive.
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| Cupholders do not equate to product quality. |
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| If you also look at PC laptop usage, you'll very rarely find people using both PC card or Expresscard ports, if they do at all. S-Video out can be had via a DVI to S-Video and composite adaptor, if you're one of the rare people that use it. Apple don't bother throwing that stuff in there because they know the majority of people don't use those things. The less extra crap put in means the less that can go wrong with the machine. On the contrary to your assertion, Apple for years included MORE things than what used to be on PC laptops. Ethernet, a modem, Firewire and other things used to be standard back when PC laptops required PCMCIA cards for those features. |
How can you tell me that Apple used to put all those things in their computers as a good thing, and none of it in their macs today as equally good? You seem to forget that Apple is such a company that jumps on every new technology created out there which is why they appear to be the first at having the ethernet, modem and so one. Apple tried to capitalise on proprietary stuff like firewire because they felt that the video industry will one day make it a standard and be rewarded financially for it (it didn't).
As for the crap that you think PC laptops have, well I like my built-in memory card reader, remote control, media control buttons, 3/4 USB ports, s-video out (yes I still connect to movie projectors and TVs) and 1920x1200 LCD screen on my 15.4" notebook.
I don't ever want unnecessary dongles and accessories sticking out of my USB ports like a Christmas tree except for external hard drives.
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| You are right though, people buy Macs for Mac OS X. The focus is entirely around the software and its functionality. |
Which begs the question, why being a software is it still so expensive?
