ONKYO DP-X1 | Dual Sabre Dacs | Balanced | Sabre BTL Amp | MQA | DSD 256 | Android 5 |

[Gerryhatrick]

Thanks Peridot - a logical explanation I had overlooked! (Mine is a Japanese import).

 

[Riley Beale]

Will M3U8 playlists set up specifically for the 1st Generation Fiio X5 work with the DPX1?  If not, can somebody please provide clear step by step instructions to create M3U playlists compatible with the DP-X1 in preferrably Foobar2000 or Mediamonkey?  Thanks!

 

[hellfire8888]

  Will M3U8 playlists set up specifically for the 1st Generation Fiio X5 work with the DPX1?  If not, can somebody please provide clear step by step instructions to create M3U playlists compatible with the DP-X1 in preferrably Foobar2000 or Mediamonkey?  Thanks!

install foobar in your onkyo ?

 

[Riley Beale]

Is it free and does it work well and sound good?  Is the user interface easy to navigate and use?

 

[Limexx]

guess the usb dac feature will not be coming 

 

[Sonic Defender]

  guess the usb dac feature will not be coming 

I will see if I can get any information about this. I have formed a relationship with the manager of product development at Gibson Innovations who work with ONKYO closely on some of the ONKYO line (not all) so there is a chance that via that route I may be able to discover something. No guarantee of course, but I don't mind sending an e-mail and seeing if he knows anything. I also think the stand alone DAC functionality would be quite useful.

 

[bflat]

  I will see if I can get any information about this. I have formed a relationship with the manager of product development at Gibson Innovations who work with ONKYO closely on some of the ONKYO line (not all) so there is a chance that via that route I may be able to discover something. No guarantee of course, but I don't mind sending an e-mail and seeing if he knows anything. I also think the stand alone DAC functionality would be quite useful.

The new AK70 can function as both DAC and OTG transport so hopefully the DP-X1 hardware can do the same.

 

[hung031086]

Don't buy the ak70. I was wrong when i sold my dp-x1 to buy it. The SQ is not good like the onkyo, and the battery drains fast too.

 

[FidelityCastro]

 

This is completely normal and not a fault - electronically 2.5mm balance jack has no way to detect whether a headphone is connected or not as all four pole connections in the jack are used for audio, whereas for 3.5mm jack one pole (the mic pole) is also used for connection detection.

It just means that if you use balance, always remember to stop the music. It'll become a habit eventually.

problem now is i did stop the music but the drain still continue...

@nanaholic, that's good to know - I had wondered about that myself. Thanks for enlightening us.

@doki81 - not sure how fast your drain is, but I find that if I don't power off the player completely, and just leave it in sleep mode (I.e. Just one short press of the power button rather than press and hold to power off), the battery drains down faster than one might expect (over the next half a day to day and half) without me touching it again.

I've tried to disable as many apps as possible, but I still think the player is hunting for updates etc and running itself down in the background.

 

[csimon]

 
If you set "Artist" to "Various Artists" and then don't use album artist for your compilations, then you will not have the problem I described, but you will lose the track-by-track info of who that performer on that track is. If that works for you, then you will have not problem.
 
I have a large number of thoroughly-tagged flac, dsf, and m4a (alac) files in my collection and my players have no issue with any of them - it is just that they all ignore the "Album Artist" tag, which is distinct from the "Artist" tag.
 
Really, the "proper" way to handle things is to use the album artist tag in conjunction with the artist and compilation tags using the following pseudo-algorithm. Most desktop players (JRiver, Etc.) can do this - but for some reason portable players have ignored this for the most part:
 
// this is a compilation, and the user wants compilations grouped separately
if ((Tags.isCompilation) && (not UserPrefs.IgnoreCompilationTag)) then {
   if (existsAndIsNonBlank(TrackTags.AlbumArtist)) then {
      ArtistToUseForNavigation = AlbumArtist  // if they force-feed you the album artist, you should use it - even if it "wrong" in theory.
   } else {
      ArtistToUseForNavigation = "Various Artists" // or "Compilations" or whatever - just always use the same thing and make it make sense
   }
} else {  // treat track as though it is not from a compilation, either because the compilation tag is not set or because the user prefers to ignore it
  if (existsAndIsNonBlank(TrackTags.AlbumArtist)) then {
    ArtistToUseForNavigation = AlbumArtist
} else {
   if (existsAndIsNonBlank(TrackTags.Artist)) then {
     ArtistToUseForNavigation = Artist
   } else {    // not a compilation and yet neither artist nor album artist are set...ouch
     ArtistToUseForNavigation = "Unknown Artist" // or something like that
   }
}
 
Note however, that when the track data is displayed during playback (which is NOT navigation), the actual artist field should be used rather than album artist. So you navigate to your copy of "Subdivisions: A Tribute to Rush" you find it under "various artists" (or "compilations" or whatever) but when you have on Kip Winger's rendering of "Spirit of the Radio" the screen shows the album art, the song title as "Spirit of the Radio", the album name as "Subdivisions: A Tribute to Rush", and the Artist's name as "Kip Winger" (and NOT "Various Artists").

 
You get my post of the year award!  I'm lurking here, as I have a Pioneer XDP-100R but as it's basically the same device and the same software I look in here too for any pointers.
 
Your post is spot on, I don't know how many times I've tried to explain this to software developers.  Even, of course, that Artist must be used for Now Playing, not Album Artist, as you feel you have to point that out when you're making the case for Album Artist.  It just seems that software developers for these devices, or at least the analysts who designed the software, are not actually music enthusiasts themselves with libraries that they would want to search.
 
It would also be nice to have an intelligent, configurable view where only your Album Artists were displayed but then the albums screen shows not only that artist's albums but all the compilation albums and other artists' albums that this artist appears on.  But this is far far too complicated for any developers to get to grips with, they can't even manage a simple Album Artist view as yet!
 
BTW I don't know if anyone else submitted the same requests, but two of the changes in the new software release were suggestions I made a few months ago, emailed to Pioneer:
 
1. Long press on the physical Next and Previous buttons causes a seek (fast-forward/rewind) so you don't have to unlock the device and find the progress bar on the screen - this didn't work before. I also asked for the same to be done with bluetooth headesets, e.g. a car bluetooth set, but this wasn't implemented.
 
2. The new format of the Now Playing screen with the explicit cover art, rather than a zoomed and dimmed background picture. I thought it looked really messy before, with the graphics and text getting lost on random backgrounds that are not meant to have text over the top of them. Again, only half points for this...they actually left the background picture there so it's still as messy!  But at least the cover art is better displayed now.

 

[Samut89]

Hi guys,
Just wanna ask reagarding the DPX1 under balanced mode..?
I do not understand the reason that it using the dsf 2.8mhz..there is click sound every 10 second in the songs..
Been wondering would it be because balanced unable to support dsf?

Thanks,
Jonathan

 

[Peridot]

Hi guys,
Just wanna ask reagarding the DPX1 under balanced mode..?
I do not understand the reason that it using the dsf 2.8mhz..there is click sound every 10 second in the songs..
Been wondering would it be because balanced unable to support dsf?

Thanks,
Jonathan

 
What is your Lock Range Adjust set at?
 
It's under Settings / Sound & Notification. Narrow settings causes problems with hi-res files.

 

[gearofwar]

Just  a curious question. Has anyone here recently bought Onkyo from Pricejapan or sending back the unit for repair? 

 

[singleended58]

Just  a curious question. Has anyone here recently bought Onkyo from Pricejapan or sending back the unit for repair? 

I got my DP-X1 from PriceJapan but never sending back for repair. The unit is perfect.

 

[gearofwar]

I got my DP-X1 from PriceJapan but never sending back for repair. The unit is perfect.

Did you get it recently after June? I have a hard time communicating with them. They haven't responded to my messages for months for the repair unit.