[sahmen]

hi everyone how does he1000v1 compare to hifiman 1000se? is v1 more warm sounding than he1000se?

He 1000v1 more warm sounding? Maybe (or most likely) but it has been a while since I parted with mine via the upgrade to the He1000SE. However, I think the He1000SE crushes the v1 in detail-retrieval at both ends of the spectrum, refinement, airiness, and texture in both high and low frequencies, and imaging, without sacrificing anything important, and most importantly, without becoming fatiguing. Soundstage sounds like a wash between the two, and although I did love my He 1000v1 a lot, the He-1000SE made it (the HeK) sound relatively rolled off at the top, and maybe a tad too smooth (which is why I cannot directly answer the question about whether it was more "warm sounding," which I am finding difficult to distinguish from the "smooth-sounding"-slightly rolled-off part). At any rate, to these ears, the SQ upgrade to the He-1000SE had no downsides that I can remember...although, as usual, mileages may vary. For one thing, the v1 is already very good in its own right, and has to be played side by side with the He-1000SE for one to reliably compare the differences. Those differences are not necessarily subtle, although the two headphones retain the same hifiman high-end HP house sound, if there is such a thing.

As usual, aftermarket cables are a must for best results, in my opinion, whether one is sticking with the v1 or upgrading to the HeKse.

 

[Sound Eq]

He 1000v1 more warm sounding? Maybe (or most likely) but it has been a while since I parted with mine via the upgrade to the He1000SE. However, I think the He1000SE crushes the v1 in detail-retrieval at both ends of the spectrum, refinement, airiness, and texture in both high and low frequencies, and imaging, without sacrificing anything important, and most importantly, without becoming fatiguing. Soundstage sounds like a wash between the two, and although I did love my He 1000v1 a lot, the He-1000SE made it (the HeK) sound relatively rolled off at the top, and maybe a tad too smooth (which is why I cannot directly answer the question about whether it was more "warm sounding," which I am finding difficult to distinguish from the "smooth-sounding"-slightly rolled-off part). At any rate, to these ears, the SQ upgrade to the He-1000SE had no downsides that I can remember...although, as usual, mileages may vary. For one thing, the v1 is already very good in its own right, and has to be played side by side with the He-1000SE for one to reliably compare the differences. Those differences are not necessarily subtle, although the two headphones retain the same hifiman high-end HP house sound, if there is such a thing.

As usual, aftermarket cables are a must for best results, in my opinion, whether one is sticking with the v1 or upgrading to the HeKse.

well i managed to get a new hifiman he1000 v1 , and i remember why the hell i fall in love with he1000 series, which i sold before and its great to have it back to my possession, and it complements my he1000se, there is something bout the v1 which i adore and love for being less revealving than 1000se, both are amazing and worth to own

i remember when i sold mine was to get v2, but i don't know why i did not like v2 as much as v1, so i sold v2 and upgraded to he1000se, something bout the v1 is so dam special

there are things i owned and let go and then regretted it, this happened with my oppo pm1, after selling it which was the first totl headphone i owned more than 5 years ago, come back few weeks ago i went to a friend who owns the pm2 and loved it so much, so i got myself an oppo pm2 which sounds great.

 

[knopi]

I loved HEKv1 too but unfortunately I have never owned them.

 

[iFi audio]

I loved HEKv1 too but unfortunately I have never owned them.

These are lovely headphones, even though it's been a while since their release.

 

[omniweltall]

well i managed to get a new hifiman he1000 v1 , and i remember why the hell i fall in love with he1000 series, which i sold before and its great to have it back to my possession, and it complements my he1000se, there is something bout the v1 which i adore and love for being less revealving than 1000se, both are amazing and worth to own

i remember when i sold mine was to get v2, but i don't know why i did not like v2 as much as v1, so i sold v2 and upgraded to he1000se, something bout the v1 is so dam special

there are things i owned and let go and then regretted it, this happened with my oppo pm1, after selling it which was the first totl headphone i owned more than 5 years ago, come back few weeks ago i went to a friend who owns the pm2 and loved it so much, so i got myself an oppo pm2 which sounds great.

Mate, it is probably the sub-bass of the HEKv1 that you loved. It was not tight or detailed, but it had the enveloping feeling and it rumbles like nothing else.

The v2 has nothing of the sort. It is tigher and more similar to HD800 bass. The SE lies between the two.

 

[Sound Eq]

Mate, it is probably the sub-bass of the HEKv1 that you loved. It was not tight or detailed, but it had the enveloping feeling and it rumbles like nothing else.

The v2 has nothing of the sort. It is tigher and more similar to HD800 bass. The SE lies between the two.

no its the sweet signature i like in v1 with original v1 pads not v2 pads, i like the colouration of v1 and i prefer it over v2. On my ican pro on high gain, it sounds amazing with hugo2 as a dac. Also i like the v1 pads more than new pads in design and fit. i see no reason to mod v1 at all as its perfect as it is. Honestly i get surprised when some v1 can sound thin in mids or has peaks in the highs. Maybe v1 and ifi ican pro are a perfect match

for me i noticed that some companies who come out with a first version of a totl headphone, the next version is more neutral and transparent. For me this is not always a welcome change

Anyhow I love both my V1 and SE and both complement each other perfectly, but v2 will have no place between v1 and SE as it moved toward more neutrality and for that SE trumps v2. That is my conclusion and I own / owned all 3

anyhow hifiman is for me is the best headphone company out there period, i tried all audeze headphones LCD4 , LCD4z and mx4 and lcd2 and all others, well to honest they all have things that turn me off., but i can say mx4 was the best among audeze. But the biggest hype was the meze empyrean man that headphone lacks detail period

 

[musicman59]

He 1000v1 more warm sounding? Maybe (or most likely) but it has been a while since I parted with mine via the upgrade to the He1000SE. However, I think the He1000SE crushes the v1 in detail-retrieval at both ends of the spectrum, refinement, airiness, and texture in both high and low frequencies, and imaging, without sacrificing anything important, and most importantly, without becoming fatiguing. Soundstage sounds like a wash between the two, and although I did love my He 1000v1 a lot, the He-1000SE made it (the HeK) sound relatively rolled off at the top, and maybe a tad too smooth (which is why I cannot directly answer the question about whether it was more "warm sounding," which I am finding difficult to distinguish from the "smooth-sounding"-slightly rolled-off part). At any rate, to these ears, the SQ upgrade to the He-1000SE had no downsides that I can remember...although, as usual, mileages may vary. For one thing, the v1 is already very good in its own right, and has to be played side by side with the He-1000SE for one to reliably compare the differences. Those differences are not necessarily subtle, although the two headphones retain the same hifiman high-end HP house sound, if there is such a thing.

As usual, aftermarket cables are a must for best results, in my opinion, whether one is sticking with the v1 or upgrading to the HeKse.

Totally agree. I also loved my v1 and upgraded to the se. The se with the Dana Cable Lazuli Reference is a great match.

 

[Gibson59]

Totally agree. I also loved my v1 and upgraded to the se. The se with the Dana Cable Lazuli Reference is a great match.

+1 I’ve got the same setup and it’s easily my end game.

 

[Sound Eq]

Totally agree. I also loved my v1 and upgraded to the se. The se with the Dana Cable Lazuli Reference is a great match.

in what way will that cable take the Se to next level, those cables are expensive

 

[iFi audio]

it had the enveloping feeling and it rumbles like nothing else

It had that, yes!

 

[JaZZ]

Mate, it is probably the sub-bass of the HEKv1 that you loved. It was not tight or detailed, but it had the enveloping feeling and it rumbles like nothing else.

It had that, yes!

You can have that with the «se», too.

Another Head-Fi member has provided me with a FR graph he received from HiFiMan (edited [rectified] by me):

I couldn't believe the low-frequency roll-off, since I didn't miss any low end with my current EQ settings without any compensation there. Note that the curve is «uncompensated», thus the 3-kHz hump is fine – at least to some degree.

After giving it a serious try, though, I ended up with this curve:

And what a difference it made! It's exactly what the «se» needed (although I hadn't missed it). I honestly can't imagine a better low-frequency reproduction. I don't think the 8-kHz peak is as strong as in the graph, but some decrease there pays off as well.

 

[Gibson59]

in what way will that cable take the Se to next level, those cables are expensive

Check out the dedicated thread for some great insights https://www.head-fi.org/threads/danacable-lazuli-reference-thread.855143/

 

[musicman59]

in what way will that cable take the Se to next level, those cables are expensive

IMO the se is brighter than the v1 but with more detail. The Lazuli Reference smooths out the sound nicely leaving the se open at the high frequencies without being bright and keeping the detail level.

 

[Sound Eq]

IMO the se is brighter than the v1 but with more detail. The Lazuli Reference smooths out the sound nicely leaving the se open at the high frequencies without being bright and keeping the detail level.

i like both SE for being the end game planar for being transparent and dynamic with better mids and bigger sound stage, and v1 for being a bit colored and warmer

 

[musicman59]

i like both SE for being the end game planar for being transparent and dynamic with better mids and bigger sound stage, and v1 for being a bit colored and warmer

Agreed. I loved the v1 when I had them and if I didn't have this many headphones in my collection I would have kept it.