[maverickronin]

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FLAC can reach up to 22k.

I know.  I meant, jokingly since you were using an approximation, that the lowpass on V0 is slightly less than 20Khz there was a little less hearing range you needed before needing to switch to FLAC to hear the hyper-treble.

 

[keanex]

Basically though what I'm getting at is that FLAC is actually inferior to 99.9% of people, though people like to convince themselves otherwise, especially since MP3 loses no low end, only the high.

 

[bcasey25raptor]

i let a few people listen to my shure 750s and there reaction was wow and there was this one ignorant person who listen to them after 2 minutes he took them off. and said skull candy titans are better. i don't understand how some people can be so ignorant but what ever. maybe he didn't want to admit that my phones were much better. one person said they were really good and walked away. and i have had numerous people at school comment on my headphones people saying they look nice and expensive. 1 person put them on and asked if they were bose. i said read the label. and surprisingly he knew what shure was. he said back to me doesn't shure make microphones.
 

 

[Yakult]

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Uh, yes it does:

Spectrogram analysis via Spectro:

I used Kevin Rudolf's 'Let It Rock' because it is heavily Loudness War'ed thus contains a lot of digital info within the file.
 
Lossless FLAC file
 
 
 
Quicktime 7.6.9b TrueVBR AAC at ~192 kbps (AAC is natively VBR [Variable bit rate]). Converted to WAV to work with Spectro otherwise it is 100% representative of that file.
 


LAME 3.98.4 mp3 at VBR -V0 (~245 kbps)



As you can see, the AAC is better more accurate representation of the FLAC file via less artifacting Not only that, thee AAC file is a smaller file, requiring less bitrate which in turn means less processing power which in practical terms, means more songs on your DAP / 'mp3 player' and longer battery life as the CPU calculates less and decodes less. Will submit the 320kbps CBR vs VBR -v0 later.

Interesting. Personally I can't even tell the difference between LAME V4 and lossless though. I use V3 just to be safe.
 
Strangely, I always get larger filesizes with AAC set to the same target bitrate. I played around with Spectro a bit. These are encoded to roughly the same filesize:
Vorbis AoTUV 5.7 Q5.2 (5.29mb)
AAC Nero 1.5.4.0 Q4.7 (5.31mb)
MP3 LAME 3.98r V3 (5.32mb)
Song is Tsuki no Waltz by Shijou Takane
 
Don't really know how to read the graph but I definitely noticed something large missing at the beginning of the song in the MP3. And I guess missing or thicker red slivers here and there.
 
 

 

[keanex]

Yup, Ogg is the best as far as compression to file size ratio is concerned, shame it never caught on. Most people though V4-V3 LAME preset is transparent. Transparent, for those who don't know, means that you can't tell a difference from the exact copy.

 

[maverickronin]

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Basically though what I'm getting at is that FLAC is actually inferior to 99.9% of people, though people like to convince themselves otherwise, especially since MP3 loses no low end, only the high.

 
 
I know, I was just trying to make a joke about those last few hertz making a difference.  Obviously, it fell flat...
 
@bcasey
 
Back to Nyu again!  Another reminder to get off my ass and finish my Elfen Lied and Nightwish/Planet Hell AMV.  I started it shortly after that song was first released and I still need to finish it...

 

[keanex]

I'm sorry =(

 

[maverickronin]

Well its my fault if my joke sucks so bad is needs an explanation.

 

[tlniec]

Earbuds... found... on a gym locker room floor?  He has actually put those things in his ears?  

  Has he had any interesting new fungal growths yet?

 
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And just to contribute to the thread: had a friend try on my MEElec M6s and he enjoyed the sound much more than the cheapo earbuds that he found on the floor of his gym's locker room. The one thing that drove him away from them were the "cone thingies", I was using the tri flange tips.
When I also told some of my friends that I was going to buy the Pro 900s for $400 they looked at me like I was mad and proceeded to tell me that I was going to be forever alone. ;_;

 

[maverickronin]

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Earbuds... found... on a gym locker room floor?  He has actually put those things in his ears?  

  Has he had any interesting new fungal growths yet?

Athlete's Ear?

 

[buffalowings]

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Earbuds... found... on a gym locker room floor?  He has actually put those things in his ears?  

  Has he had any interesting new fungal growths yet?

 

 

 
group hug?

 

[Melvins92]

why has this thread degenerated into an mp3 argument, if you cared about quality that much you'd have a record player. 

 

[bcasey25raptor]

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I know, I was just trying to make a joke about those last few hertz making a difference.  Obviously, it fell flat...
 
@bcasey
 
Back to Nyu again!  Another reminder to get off my ass and finish my Elfen Lied and Nightwish/Planet Hell AMV.  I started it shortly after that song was first released and I still need to finish it...

yep elfen lied is and always will be my favorite show.

 

[Ishcabible]

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why has this thread degenerated into an mp3 argument, if you cared about quality that much you'd have a record player. 

 
Actually...no I won't start this here. And isn't reel to reel the way to go if you wanted amazing quality music?
 
And about the Titans dude, I really don't think they're terrible IEM's. Sure, not as good as your Shures, but they sound different too.  They have more midbass, which seems to be all the rage.

 

[Melvins92]

reel to reel? What. And..What?