[Wilderbeast]

 
I believe it is due to the fact that the ear impression were done while sitting or standing because when you lie down, the shape (?) of the ear canal changes causing a leak and therefore the loss of bass.

 
 

I have used the Savant universal while lying in bed and the sound was just as good. Not the most comfortable but it's ok with very soft pillows.

Please note that it'll also depend on your ears and how you wear them. If you can insert them really deep then you'll be fine.

Thanks for the responses. With their 10 drivers, the K10s are quite heavy. When laying down the weight shifts, which makes a difference. 
 
Are the Savants much smaller than the K10 universals? When I tried them the K10Us were comfy enough but quite bulky,

 

[mscott58]

Thanks for the responses. With their 10 drivers, the K10s are quite heavy. When laying down the weight shifts, which makes a difference. 

Are the Savants much smaller than the K10 universals? When I tried them the K10Us were comfy enough but quite bulky,

Having owned the K10's for a while now I'd wonder if they were shifting that much due to their weight that they might not be fitting correctly in the first place?

Cheers

 

[wetlife]

  Got my tracking number 3 days ago, no progress yet.

Got my tracking number 5 days ago, no progress yet. I have no problem waiting , but why throw out a 2day UPS HOOK?

 

[bangkokkid]

 
Got my tracking number 5 days ago, no progress yet. I have no problem waiting , but why throw out a 2day UPS HOOK?

Not trying anything funny, just simpler to print all labels at once and it happens that's when the initial email from UPS is sent.
 
As mentioned in the main thread, orders are being passed to UPS throughout this week.

 

[tl13m]

   
 

Thanks for the responses. With their 10 drivers, the K10s are quite heavy. When laying down the weight shifts, which makes a difference.
 
Are the Savants much smaller than the K10 universals? When I tried them the K10Us were comfy enough but quite bulky,

They are about same size, however the Savant may has only 2-4 drivers (?) so it's much lighter K10U

 

[d marc0]

To our New Zealand members, the Savant tour unit will be at the Nz headfi meet on Sept. 5.

Our good friend @piksnz / Sayan will be more than happy to let you audition the SAVANT!

happy listening!

 

[Wilderbeast]

  They are about same size, however the Savant may has only 2-4 drivers (?) so it's much lighter K10U

Ok - thank you
 

Having owned the K10's for a while now I'd wonder if they were shifting that much due to their weight that they might not be fitting correctly in the first place?

Cheers

That's possible, though they feel/sound perfect when I'm sitting or standing. I'd be reluctant to change the fit. I think they're naturally quite big & heavy IEMs. Gravity just does its thing when I lie down.

 

[FullCircle]

Ok - thank you

That's possible, though they feel/sound perfect when I'm sitting or standing. I'd be reluctant to change the fit. I think they're naturally quite big & heavy IEMs. Gravity just does its thing when I lie down.

If u do not want to lose your acoustic seal while laying down, then get impressions while in the laying position.....

But don't expect a good seal while in an upright position after that.

 

[steffi]

What differences have people noticed from the Noble 4s?

Is the Savant suitable for all music genres?

I use the balanced cable from Linum with my AK240

 

[d marc0]

What differences have people noticed from the Noble 4s?

Is the Savant suitable for all music genres?

I use the balanced cable from Linum with my AK240

 
I've only heard the Noble 4 universal so there may be a slight difference with the 4s CIEM.

   

NOBLE 4 and Savant Comparison

 

These two IEMs are quite different in terms of their presentation.

 

When listening to the Noble 4, you immediately recognise the midrange presence because the bass is relatively flat. To my ears, the Noble 4 is dead flat from 50hz to 2khz making it one of the best reference monitors in the market. Then there's the slight emphasis in the lower treble just to add a bit of edge and definition in the overall tuning. This emphasis results in more clarity and detail especially in vocals, percussion, guitars, and violin. The upper treble is smooth and laid back, complementing the emphasis in the lower treble. This contrast between lower and upper treble provide a distinct characteristic in the Noble 4: clear, detailed, yet remaining smooth and laid back. As a whole, the Noble 4 has flat sound signature with a bit of emphasis in the lower treble; excellent for vocal oriented tracks.

 

From my Noble 4 Review: "CONCLUSION: So is the Noble 4 a true "Reference" monitor? I honestly can't say... What I can say however, is that I can't find any significant flaw in its sound and presentation. There is a slight forwardness in the upper midrange/lower treble but I personally find it an advantage as it brings more clarity and detail without sounding too analytical. In other words, in spite its superb transparency and resolution, the Noble 4 still retains musicality and makes you enjoy listening to music provided that your source file is of high quality not just in terms of compression but mix/mastering as well. Is it for everyone? I don't think so... bass heads will find it lacking in bass, metal heads will find the bass bit too tame, but those looking for accuracy will find contentment. I for one adores the Noble 4 and will be using this as my reference for future reviews/comparison. This will bring more confidence in my impressions and conclusions with the hope that they can be of better service to everyone."

 

 

The Noble Savant is quite different... it's more on the musical side in presentation and less of the reference type. But don't think that it's less transparent because it is very revealing and easily shows graininess, distortion, and harshness in poorly mixed/mastered tracks. The Savant also has a slight emphasis but it's closer to the upper midrange where as the Noble 4 is more on the lower treble. These makes vocals a bit more captivating with the Savant.

 

There are three distinct attributes that makes the Savant really different. First is the SUB-BASS: it lies dormant when the track doesn't call for it. Then comes a track that's mixed with sub-bass build up (ex. Hans Zimmer soundtracks) and you'd be surprised by how capable the Savant delivers subtle rumble and rounded bass slam. It is not ear-shattering bass, but a well defined bass with good depth coupled with natural decay. Second is the TREBLE EXTENSION: it is well defined and airy... able to project a respectable soundstage width for an IEM. Last but not the least is IMAGING: the Savant excels in imaging and spacing for instrument separation with an uncanny ability to highlight micro detail that you wouldn't have noticed when listening to other IEMs. Believe it or not, listening to the Savant is like rediscovering your music library because of these bits and pieces of detail you have missed all this time.

 

 

For me personally, the Noble 4 has a reference type signature while the Savant is like "the Noble 4 with extra seasoning in the sub bass / treble extension and added garnishing on top in the form of magical imaging, separation, and micro detail."

 
 
A present to Savant owners:
 

 

[FullCircle]

What differences have people noticed from the Noble 4s?

Is the Savant suitable for all music genres?

I use the balanced cable from Linum with my AK240

 

Is the Savant suitable for all music genres?
 
 
More so when compared tot he Noble 4, but not as much as the K10. The Savant is amazing, but not up to all the abilities that the K10 has.
 
 
But even with that in midn, I still love the Savant

 

[daduy]

Hi Guys,
 
Here is my impression of the Savant: http://www.head-fi.org/products/noble-audio-savant/reviews/13901
 
Summary: They are amazing. Clean, detailed, engaging, very well balance and tuned sounding IEM.
 
Thanks again for letting my try them out, it is such a pleasure

 

[d marc0]

UPDATES:

1. Our good friend @T.R.A.N.C.E.from ACT is joining the tour. He's turn will come after the SYDNEY group.
2. The Savant tour unit will be available for audition at the New Zealand Headphone Meet MK II, 2015 Ed. - Look for @piksnz(Sayan)

           For more details about the meet, visit the thread: http://www.head-fi.org/t/752561/new-zealand-headphone-meet-mk-ii-2015-ed
 
 
Quote:

  Hi Guys,
 
Here is my impression of the Savant: http://www.head-fi.org/products/noble-audio-savant/reviews/13901
 
Summary: They are amazing. Clean, detailed, engaging, very well balance and tuned sounding IEM.
 
Thanks again for letting my try them out, it is such a pleasure

It's great to know someone with the same impression on the Savant as I did. Thank you for joining the tour mate!
 
Sound Quality (from the review: http://www.head-fi.org/products/noble-audio-savant/reviews/13901)
 
"Ok the most important part for me, sound quality, so how do they sound? Awesome..... simply awesome, almost perfect! They are very well balanced, balanced in a way that all the frequencies are evenly represented.
 
The bass, mids, trebles have equal position and volume, nothing is over anything. Another thing that really pleasant for me is how musical instrument being represented by the Savant, it's almost like each instrument in a piece of music has equal opportunity to make a sound, and i believe this is the reason why they sound very detailed for me. This doesn't mean that classical music lost their dynamic, some instrument still sounds louder than other as it is intended, but i can hear all of them. Interestingly with all the detailed presentation they manage to sound very musical as well, it doesn't sounds cold or analytical at all, just pure rich, engaging musical experience out of the Savant. "

 

[daduy]

oh mate it was my pleasure really! 

 

[Darkestred]

These look great.  Can anyone compare these to the Fidue a83?  What i really like about the a83 is how i feel like im in the studio when i hear the drums.