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I had two amps that had 2watts and none of them drove the he500 effortlessly but decently. The asgard isnt considered to drive the he500 effortlessly but barely satisfactorily.
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I had two amps that had 2watts and none of them drove the he500 effortlessly but decently. The asgard isnt considered to drive the he500 effortlessly but barely satisfactorily.
dont really feel like getting into this but its not always about volume... and I firmly disagree. That is why you never hear the asgard 2 as a recommendation for the he500.
Thanks, I've seen similar comments and
Just to clarify a few (malveaux) points in the above:
1. assuming the reference is to Asgard2 and NOT (original) Asgard.
2. Asgard 2 does 1W per channel.
3. "(HE-500) it just seems to need a touch more than 1 watt".
again, per channel I assume.
so the recommendation makes sense vis a vis Asgard 2 only delivering 1W per channel
and
HE-500 benefitting from something that does 2+w per channel.
yet based on volume (dB) at the 38ohm, 89 SPL dB/mW
getting up to deafening 115dB listening levels (398mW by math) or 120dB (1259mW by math)
shouldn't require that 2+W unless you "always" listen at those dBs?
hence my confusion at what all that Lyr power is "helping" if my volume knob sits at 9a-11am on the dial...
maybe I just listen too q u i e t l y?
and indeed, the Vali does something between 650mw-550mw per channel, less than the A2.
yet my HiFi M8 on max gain drives the HE-500 to loud volumes (well), and at mid volumes sounds very close to my ConceroHD+ Lyr set up. Jude has said the M8 provides "enough power" for the HE-500s.
alas, don't know the mW output of the M8 at max gain switch tho.... (awaiting CEntrance reply)
Really. 2 Watts will drive the HE-500's above the threshold of pain. 1 Watt will just barely reach the threshold of pain. Nobody listens anywhere near those figures without getting hearing impaired. I can listen quite loudly, not experience any distortion and the sound is excellent.
Were you referring to the old Asgard?
The Asgard 2 is an excellent design where it's low distortion doesn't come from gobs of negative feedback but from a careful design using discrete components, not opamps. This is not the easy way to design a headphone amp.
dont really feel like getting into this but its not always about volume... and I firmly disagree. That is why you never hear the asgard 2 as a recommendation for the he500.
Really. 2 Watts will drive the HE-500's above the threshold of pain. 1 Watt will just barely reach the threshold of pain. Nobody listens anywhere near those figures without getting hearing impaired. I can listen quite loudly, not experience any distortion and the sound is excellent.
Were you referring to the old Asgard?
The Asgard 2 is an excellent design where it's low distortion doesn't come from gobs of negative feedback but from a careful design using discrete components, not opamps. This is not the easy way to design a headphone amp.
dont really feel like getting into this but its not always about volume... and I firmly disagree. That is why you never hear the asgard 2 as a recommendation for the he500.
I emailed with Schitt and they specifically recommended it for the HE-500's. I have both items and the sound is superb. Yes it is not all about volume, this amp has very low distortion without relying on negative feedback. The FR is flat. Since these cans are Orthos, damping factor and impedance curves are not problems. And IMO it sounds great.
Schiit recommends what for the he500? Asgard 2? Vali?
Currently have the modi and magni with the he500 and I think it's good enough. I want to get another amp and DAC setup and I'm considering the vali and another magni or an asgard 2 with a bifrost.
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A: In our opinion, yes, but it is definitely at the limit of what it can do. If you really want to get to head banging levels, you’ll need more power.
Q: Can the Vali adequately drive the Hifiman HE-500s, powerwise?
They recommended the Asgard 2. I asked what they thought of the Vali and they said, see below:
A: In our opinion, yes, but it is definitely at the limit of what it can do. If you really want to get to head banging levels, you’ll need more power.
Q: Can the Vali adequately drive the Hifiman HE-500s, powerwise?
They recommended the Asgard 2. I asked what they thought of the Vali and they said, see below:
A: In our opinion, yes, but it is definitely at the limit of what it can do. If you really want to get to head banging levels, you’ll need more power.
Q: Can the Vali adequately drive the Hifiman HE-500s, powerwise?
okay but did you even ask about the schiit lyr?
if you asked what would be better for the he500 the lyr or asgard they would probably say the lyr.
Are my tubes too sensitive? Clapping and even talking too loudly will cause some ringing even about 3 feet away.
Are my tubes too sensitive? Clapping and even talking too loudly will cause some ringing even about 3 feet away.