New TOL A&K DAP : the AK Ultima SP1000
May 27, 2019 at 10:48 AM Post #6,527 of 9,409
AFAIC there is no roon for the SP1000 yet unless you are just using it in dac mode. I then assume you are connected to a computer by usb. Just set roon to do the first unfold. The SP1k in dac mode does not do the final unfold. The software setting for mqa in usb mode is only for using the SP1k as a streamer to another dac. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I have asked for a mqa primer from AK on several occasions but nothing yet. I am looking forward to roon implementation.

I appreciate the input. I'm not too sure what you mean by "Just set roon to do the first unfold. The SP1k in dac mode does not do the final unfold." I am using it in DAC mode. If you could clarify it would be appreciated!
 
May 27, 2019 at 7:59 PM Post #6,528 of 9,409
Hiya
If I remember correctly, the unit will prompt you to update the pre-installed version, which I guess you can do on the device as normal. Doing this will act as a reminder to also update the manual store version, which may require updating externally / downloading the newer version from the AK store (like the first install).

What version is the pre-installed Tidal supposed to be on? How does one update that?
 
May 27, 2019 at 9:19 PM Post #6,529 of 9,409
This morning my sp1000 proposed me an update of tidal application i have installed manually few weeks ago. I
I entered my Google play store account information in the sp1000 and it's started to download the application.
May be I missed something by here, but I thought we could not update the application installed manually in the sp1000. But finally when I checked, looks like it was not updated. Dos anyone experiences that?
am I the only person who experience this ?
is it normal that I had google play store opened on my SP1000 ? then I click on update, and it started downloading the tidal application from google play store. and after, nothing happened !!!! that happened many times.
 
May 27, 2019 at 9:47 PM Post #6,530 of 9,409
Hiya
If I remember correctly, the unit will prompt you to update the pre-installed version, which I guess you can do on the device as normal. Doing this will act as a reminder to also update the manual store version, which may require updating externally / downloading the newer version from the AK store (like the first install).
I'm not talking about the preinstalled tidal application. I know that one, but I'm talking about the tidal .apk application installed manually from : https://apkpure.com on the SP1000.
look like many times, my sP1000 detected new version the that application and ask me to update. I accepted, and the google play store application was directly opened on my SP1000, I entered my account informations, then it started to download the new version on my SP1000, but after that nothing happened!!!
 
May 27, 2019 at 9:50 PM Post #6,531 of 9,409
am I the only person who experience this ?
is it normal that I had google play store opened on my SP1000 ? then I click on update, and it started downloading the tidal application from google play store. and after, nothing happened !!!! that happened many times.

Same happened to me on my SP1KM. Just for grins, I attempted to update that way, but a Google Play store login appeared and I don't have a Google Play store account and just canceled out. Besides, I've always manually side-loaded the Tidal app, downloading from here https://apkpure.com/tidal-music-hifi-songs-playlists-videos/com.aspiro.tidal Note, this is different than the built in Tidal app, which allows for streaming only - that app is part of the auto-download updates from A&K and can't be side-loaded. Instructions for side-loading apps are here https://us.astellnkern.com/blogs/news/open-app-service-instructions
 
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May 27, 2019 at 9:56 PM Post #6,532 of 9,409
Same happened to me on my SP1KM. Just for grins, I attempted to update that way, but a Google Play store login appeared and I don't have a Google Play store account and just canceled out. Besides, I've always manually side-loaded the Tidal app, downloading from here https://apkpure.com/tidal-music-hifi-songs-playlists-videos/com.aspiro.tidal Note, this is different than the built in Tidal app, which allows for streaming only - that app is part of the auto-download updates from A&K and can't be side-loaded. Instructions for side-loading apps are here https://us.astellnkern.com/blogs/news/open-app-service-instructions
Thank so much for sharing that.
that mean only our SP1K have that issu. @JasonNYC shall we send our DAPs to AK for repairing ?
 
May 27, 2019 at 10:07 PM Post #6,533 of 9,409
Thank so much for sharing that.
that mean only our SP1K have that issu. @JasonNYC shall we send our DAPs to AK for repairing ?
Unless @JasonNYC says otherwise, I don't think it's an error and that the player is working as designed and that version of Tidal always has to be manually side-loaded. I'm not an Android OS expert, but my guess is it has to do with the Android OS version, how the OS is modified, OS permissions with Google Play Store and licensing. I've seen similar instances on other manufacturers DAPs.
 
May 27, 2019 at 10:13 PM Post #6,534 of 9,409
Unless @JasonNYC says otherwise, I don't think it's an error and that the player is working as designed and that version of Tidal always has to be manually side-loaded. I'm not an Android OS expert, but my guess is it has to do with the Android OS version, how the OS is modified, OS permissions with Google Play Store and licensing. I've seen similar instances on other manufacturers DAPs.
@Samuel777 and @NovaFlyer this was discussed in detail regarding Tidal and the prompt for update in this thread back in December when OpenApp was first released. It will not update that way and the latest version needs to be manually loaded. I will address in more detail tomorrow when I am back in the office and anything else outstanding from this weekend. It is a holiday here in the US today and purposely stayed offline this weekend to spend some time with the family.
 
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May 27, 2019 at 10:20 PM Post #6,535 of 9,409
@Samuel777 and @NovaFlyer this was discussed in detail regarding Tidal and the prompt for update in this thread back in December when OpenApp was first released. It will not update that way and the latest version needs to be manually loaded. I will address in more detail tomorrow when I am back in the office and anything else outstanding from this weekend. It is a holiday here in the US today and purposely stayed offline this weekend to spend some time with the family.
Thanks @JasonNYC , continue your Memorial Day holiday :ksc75smile: I'm tracking your post and have no issues, was only trying to help / clarify for @Samuel777 Probably could have done a little better on the explanation.
 
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May 27, 2019 at 10:23 PM Post #6,536 of 9,409
@Samuel777 and @NovaFlyer this was discussed in detail regarding Tidal and the prompt for update in this thread back in December when OpenApp was first released. It will not update that way and the latest version needs to be manually loaded. I will address in more detail tomorrow when I am back in the office and anything else outstanding from this weekend. It is a holiday here in the US today and purposely stayed offline this weekend to spend some time with the family.
Thanks @JasonNYC have a nice Memorial Day, Thanks @NovaFlyer
 
May 27, 2019 at 11:37 PM Post #6,537 of 9,409
I'm not talking about the preinstalled tidal application. I know that one, but I'm talking about the tidal .apk application installed manually from : https://apkpure.com on the SP1000.
look like many times, my sP1000 detected new version the that application and ask me to update. I accepted, and the google play store application was directly opened on my SP1000, I entered my account informations, then it started to download the new version on my SP1000, but after that nothing happened!!!

I know what you are talking about and as I said, you need to reinstall the extra Tidal via the same process as the initial install. Check the version on your app, then check the version on APKpure. If you need to update, then go through the download / drag and drop process with the DAP connected to your computer.

It’s a pain in the backside, but we were all pre-warned and at least we get Tidal offline etc at last.
 
May 28, 2019 at 2:38 AM Post #6,538 of 9,409
I've been using my sp1000 ss for a couple of weeks now. It's sounding better and better. The clarity and detail is immense but without being fatiguing. Blows the lotoo lgpt out of the water. Far better build too
 
May 28, 2019 at 12:51 PM Post #6,539 of 9,409
I've been using my sp1000 ss for a couple of weeks now. It's sounding better and better. The clarity and detail is immense but without being fatiguing. Blows the lotoo lgpt out of the water. Far better build too

Well said. Haven’t tried any of the lotoos, but the SPK SS is certainly a level above anything I’ve owned before and not fatiguing at all.

Interesting that you’re hearing an improvement after time as well. Won’t go down the burn-in rabbit hole, but I’m still being blown away on some tracks even after a month+ of listening to it, so definitely past the honeymoon / new toy syndrome period.
 
May 28, 2019 at 1:06 PM Post #6,540 of 9,409
It does seem to get better and better. What iems or headphones do you use with yours?
 

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