[Eee Pee]

   
I won't even touch that...

 
And I don't want you to.  

 

[estreeter]

I go to sleep and this thread has gone even further downhill. Jude tells us that the Rag is one of the best amps he's ever heard with the HD800 and all the discussion is around erections and inappropriate touching. I'm all for a bit of light relief (sigh ..), but can we get this train back on the tracks ?

 

[Pidgeon]

To stay on topic: is Yggdrasil still planned to be released in Q2?

 

[wnmnkh]

From what jude said about "make some adjustments to bring it to current production qualifier spec", I assume the order will open around late May, realistically.
 
But then, I would not be surprised even remotely if it gets delayed further.

 

[magiccabbage]

I am hoping someone will take the Rag and try run it with the Keff R500 700 and 900 - maybe also the Klipsch R7 ii. If it can power those and sound better than the  Rotel RA-1570 - I will more than likely buy it. 

 

[Pidgeon]

  From what jude said about "make some adjustments to bring it to current production qualifier spec", I assume the order will open around late May, realistically.
 
But then, I would not be surprised even remotely if it gets delayed further.

You're referring to Ragnarok or Yggdrasil? Jude was talking about Ragnarok, but I was curious about the (new) Yggdrasil release date. I supposed Q2 because previously it had been set to a Q1 release.

 

[wnmnkh]

 

  From what jude said about "make some adjustments to bring it to current production qualifier spec", I assume the order will open around late May, realistically.
 
But then, I would not be surprised even remotely if it gets delayed further.

You're referring to Ragnarok or Yggdrasil?

Ragnarok.
 
 
My uneducated, wild guess on Yggdrasli: Mid-August.  

 

[TwoEars]

  Ragnarok.
 
 
My uneducated, wild guess on Yggdrasli: Mid-August.  

 
+3-6 months
 

 

[Pidgeon]

   
+3-6 months
 

So it's going to be released next year? I hope not! I'm waiting for both Ragnarok+Yggdrasil for a big bad bundle purchase. Both, or none!!! 

 

[estreeter]

  So it's going to be released next year? I hope not! I'm waiting for both Ragnarok+Yggdrasil for a big bad bundle purchase. Both, or none!!! 

 
How many months are on your calendar, friend ? By my count, 5+6 = 11 and the 6 was a total guesstimate at best ! Other than accountants, a weird mob who live by the fiscal year, I'm not aware of anyone who considers November 2014 as 'next year' ..... 

 

[Clsmooth391]

  Ragnarok.
 
 
My uneducated, wild guess on Yggdrasli: Mid-August.  

 
 

   
+3-6 months
 

 
 

   
How many months are on your calendar, friend ? By my count, 5+6 = 11 and the 6 was a total guesstimate at best ! Other than accountants, a weird mob who live by the fiscal year, I'm not aware of anyone who considers November 2014 as 'next year' ..... 

 
 
See above. Think he meant 3-6 months from August.

 

[wnmnkh]

We can always wait. Products will come, eventually.
 
 
Now, I have a question for speaker matching for Ragnarok. Other than crappy B652 speakers, I have JBL L830 bookshelf speakers.( http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=407268&gclid=COGDotjFnr4CFYqFfgod6j4ArA&Q=&is=REG&A=details )
 
My plan is running these JBL speakers with Ragnarok, but then I realized the power rating of L830 is 75W at 8 ohm. From spec of Rag, it can only do 60W at 8 ohm.
 
Sure, I am using these as near-field speakers, but I am worried about the speakers' tweeters since technically they will be underpowered a lot (from what I know, I should connect to an amplifier which can do 1.7~2X of the speaker's power handling. So rag is far from being 1.7X of 75W). Will the tweeters get damaged/killed if I use these speakers with Ragnarok?

 

[Chris J]

We can always wait. Products will come, eventually.


Now, I have a question for speaker matching for Ragnarok. Other than crappy B652 speakers, I have JBL L830 bookshelf speakers.( http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=407268&gclid=COGDotjFnr4CFYqFfgod6j4ArA&Q=&is=REG&A=details )

My plan is running these JBL speakers with Ragnarok, but then I realized the power rating of L830 is 75W at 8 ohm. From spec of Rag, it can only do 60W at 8 ohm.

Sure, I am using these as near-field speakers, but I am worried about the speakers' tweeters since technically they will be underpowered a lot (from what I know, I should connect to an amplifier which can do 1.7~2X of the speaker's power handling. So rag is far from being 1.7X of 75W). Will the tweeters get damaged/killed if I use these speakers with Ragnarok?

Personally I wouldn't sweat it. :wink_face:
Sensitivity is 1Watt = 90 dB, which is a loud average volume and your using them near field so you still have a lot of head room.
I've never heard of the 1.7-2 rule, My basic rule of thumb is, if it sounds distorted, turn it down.

 

[swspiers]

I've never heard of the 1.7-2 rule, My basic rule of thumb is, if it sounds distorted, turn it'd down.

I remember that rule from days of selling crappy Sony and Kenwood receivers at Fry's electronics with low current and inflated specs.  I'm not sure that rule applies to the average amplifier near the upper-end.

 

[TwoEars]

Personally I wouldn't sweat it.

Sensitivity is 1Watt = 90 dB, which is a loud average volume and your using them near field so you still have a lot of head room.
I've never heard of the 1.7-2 rule, My basic rule of thumb is, if it sounds distorted, turn it'd down.

 
Yupp, the first watt really is the most important watt. And "First Watt" is a fantastic company name me thinks!
 

  I remember that rule from days of selling crappy Sony and Kenwood receivers at Fry's electronics with low current and inflated specs.  I'm not sure that rule applies to the average amplifier near the upper-end.

 
Probably not. I've heard the smallest 30W NAD amp in a store drive the biggest baddest $15000 speakers they had. Sounded excellent.
 
I've also heard a 15W tube amp drive full size planar speakers, they probably maxxed out the amp and there was probably some soft clipping going on. But as you know soft clipping on a tube amp is nothing to worry about and won't damage anything, it sounded absolutely glorious.