[Fearless1]

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I'm a two hp guy also. My regular formulating is to get a set of complementary hp's and keep them until I find something that I like listening to more. I started with pair of dt990 with the d2k. Keep that for a while then went with the he400 and d5k...didn't think that anything would knock that off the hp podium. Then I borrowed the hd650 and shabam....(that's my wife's phrase btw)  it was like lightening struck. I was smitten.
 
So now, it's the he400 and hd650. I know that they are both open and I usually like one closed hp, but...I find them different enough to be my steady set. One dynamic driver and one planar. 

The lush sound of the 650s makes them hard to take off your head. Wait until you hear them with your Lyr, great combo.

 

[MattTCG]

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The lush sound of the 650s makes them hard to take off your head. Wait until you hear them with your Lyr, great combo.

 
My feakin' amp is stuck in Columbus OH. I hate fedex!! 

 

[chewy4]

I wish my amp was in Columbus... mine has been in Cali for the past 3 days...
 
FedEx is usually good for me, much better than UPS which re-routes it to USPS and delays the shipping a day further, but Schiit must tell them to take their time or something. Mine had some weird exception that made no sense.

 

[jerg]

Check it out guys, Hifiman has a service team here on head-fi now:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/629253/head-direct-hifiman-customer-service-team

 

[icehole]

I have found it difficult to switch back and forth between the hd650s and the he400s. Both are great and I like the sound from both, however.... First thing i notice when i swap is what is lacking that i like from the other cans.  Takes a few songs to settle in to that specifc hp again and really enjoy it.  The pain is re-lived when i swap back.  Anyone else notice this or do i have some sort of dysfunction, hah? 

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

That's normal. Your ears have to adjust from the shock of having a completely different balance injected straight to them.

Like when I compared the D7000 to the Q701. If I used the D7000 all day, the Q701 would sound like it's nothing but treble when put it on. When I used the Q701 all day and switch to the D7000, the D7000 sounded like a muddy mess.

 

[icehole]

Great news. Thought for a moment my ears had gone tarded or something. I had been listening to the he400s for last few days, switched to the 650s and thought what? I thought I really liked these. Gave it a moment and viola, great, just like i remember.
 
Makes for comparing two headphones a bit tricky.  The bass is so different btn these two headphones.  Anytime i swap i have to wait for a few songs before i can really appreciate them again.

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

It's hard to compare two headphones with a very different response. In that case, it's more on preferences when you have extensively tested a headphone that day, as opposed to quick A/B-ing.

I don't trust quick A/B-ing impressions on headphones, unless they are close-ish in frequency response.

 

[icehole]

That sounds very true.  Would be very difficult to swap back and forth.  Really does take some time for ears to adjust to the precise sound from each different hp.
 
Alternatively, when i swap any of these back and forth with the dt770s i do not get the effect so strong.  I can more quickly appreciate the differences btn them.

 

[Grado77]

Completely normal. My phones and ears have to warm up to each other for a while before a perfect synch takes place.
 
I nearly sent back a brand new set of D5K the first 30 minutes I listened to them. That was after a strict diet of HE-400 received a week prior. Conversing with Matt made me reconsider and I'm glad I did. I absolutely love the D5K and it compliments the HE-400 well.
 
When listening to either phone for an extended time and then immediately switching results in a very poor showing for the replacement can. Doesn't matter which one it is. I always have to give it about 30 minutes between swaps. Usually I just stick with one can for the day, just more enjoyable for me that way.

 

[Eric_C]

It's kind of like wearing shoes? I kind of hate my work shoes if I've been in sandals or sneakers all day, but that doesn't mean they're bad.

 

[icehole]

I think that is a great idea, just stick with one pair for an individual day.
 
That was my experience, i just got the he400s, never having heard ortho sound.  Very excited, put them on, this was after wks of all 650 listening.  I was not blown away. I was almost ready to put a FS post.  I got on this forum and began complaining a bit about lack of this and that from the 400s.  Hahah couple responses later, i was thinking, hmm actually these don't really sound that bad at all.  Few minutes after that, wow I actually really like these.  Wish i could have gone back and negated my comments, hah. 
 
Guess that is what i get for being a relative noob to owning multiple cans at once. 

 

[icehole]

After adjusting however, I find I can appreciate the sound from that can just a tad more.  I hear things in 650s that I had not heard before after listening to the he400s. 

 

[Grado77]

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It's kind of like wearing shoes? I kind of hate my work shoes if I've been in sandals or sneakers all day, but that doesn't mean they're bad.

 
perfect analogy!

 

[lubczyk]

So is there a closed approximation to the HE-400? RE-272 perhaps? I love what I've demoed of the HE-400 I just can't handle a headphone being open both ways. I need isolation.