guywithtwohands
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How much extra would you say the 2nd generation is worth over the old T1?
I have my eyes on a used T1 1st gen for a little over 400€ whereas a new T1 2nd gen is around 750-800€.
From what I have gathered there are quite differing opinions on their sound with some stating that the 2nd gen is bad because it's too warm-sounding and others saying it's much better because the treble has been tamed slightly. Is there really a large difference or are we talking minor reductions in treble and a slight bump in bass? Frequency response graphs would seem to indicate that the differences should be minor, although they obviously can't tell the whole story.
I'm used to the sound of the HD 600 and 650 as well as the T90. The T90, as you probably know, were disliked by many for being crazy treble cannons, but the treble on them never bothered me much in the roughly 5 years I've had them. They are definitely very bright, but only on select recordings does it end up being too much and/or sounding worse than the 600/650 to me. From what I understand the T1 - both versions - is not nearly as bright as the T90, but happens to have a wider soundstage and more detail.
I suppose I do prefer a bit of treble sparkle as I have to say that between the HD 600, 650 and T90, the HD 650 is probably my least favourite because of how dark it can make some things sound. T90 would be somewhere in the middle for me as it sounds fantastic with some recordings, whereas the HD 600 sounds good with just about everything and is probably my overall favourite for that reason.
I have my eyes on a used T1 1st gen for a little over 400€ whereas a new T1 2nd gen is around 750-800€.
From what I have gathered there are quite differing opinions on their sound with some stating that the 2nd gen is bad because it's too warm-sounding and others saying it's much better because the treble has been tamed slightly. Is there really a large difference or are we talking minor reductions in treble and a slight bump in bass? Frequency response graphs would seem to indicate that the differences should be minor, although they obviously can't tell the whole story.
I'm used to the sound of the HD 600 and 650 as well as the T90. The T90, as you probably know, were disliked by many for being crazy treble cannons, but the treble on them never bothered me much in the roughly 5 years I've had them. They are definitely very bright, but only on select recordings does it end up being too much and/or sounding worse than the 600/650 to me. From what I understand the T1 - both versions - is not nearly as bright as the T90, but happens to have a wider soundstage and more detail.
I suppose I do prefer a bit of treble sparkle as I have to say that between the HD 600, 650 and T90, the HD 650 is probably my least favourite because of how dark it can make some things sound. T90 would be somewhere in the middle for me as it sounds fantastic with some recordings, whereas the HD 600 sounds good with just about everything and is probably my overall favourite for that reason.
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