Listening to this binaural album on the MS 3.2 off the Wells Audio Milo. Awesome!
MYSPHERE 3.1-UNIQUE in SOUND&DESIGN&BUILD QUALITY
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Beautiful headphones.)
EQ for MYSPHERE 3
My first proposed EQ can be found here:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/mys...und-design-build-quality.819658/post-16796657
Now it’s time for an updated EQ setting that:
• allows for louder listening,
• has fine-tweaked midrange,
• and features a controlled, punchy bass extension, following Harman down to 50 Hz.
The EQ uses a 51 Hz Hi-Pass (Low Cut) filter with higher Q.
This Q of 1.5 boosts some bass and the cut limits subsonics in favour of a better controlled bass and higher possibly sound level.
The Treble-Shelf-Band is not used (Gain = 0 dB), but frequency and Q are pre-set to adjust treble to taste.
| EQ for | Mysphere 3 | w. B-Pad | |||
| Band | Gain dB | F Hz | Q | Shape | |
| B/Bass | +6.0 | 110 | 0.7 | B-shelf | adjust to taste |
| 1 | n.a. | 51 | 1.5 | HP-Filter | |
| 2 | -10.0 | 2.2k | 2.0 | Peak | |
| 3 | +5.0 | 2.6k | 2.7 | Peak | |
| 4 | -3.5 | 4.9k | 2.9 | Peak | |
| 5 | +7.5 | 4.2k | 1.0 | Hi-shelf | |
| T/Treble | 0.0 | 4.2k | 0.8 | Hi-shelf | adjust to taste |
This is the resulting EQ curve on my RME ADI-2/4 Pro SE:
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Sonic Defender
Headphoneus Supremus
How have you determined that this is not resulting in distortion in the bass? I will confess to not knowing what the distortion profile is for this headphone. If it is already very low in the low frequencies you can of course boost within the tolerances. If the distortion had the potential to be lifted by boosting frequencies you may wish to lower the pre-gain a little. It might not be necessary with this particular headphone, but it would be worth knowing regardless.
Sonic Defender
Headphoneus Supremus
Have to admit, didn't really notice the headphones at first ...Beautiful headphones.)
As for every EQ, for certain configurations the pre-gain has to be adjusted to avoid overload distortions from the signal processing and DA-conversion BEFORE Mysphere.
On my RME ADI-2 this is not necessary, as it has an internal headroom of 24 dB.
Listening to Mysphere, reaching driver excursion limit, and the effects of IM-Distortions from too much air movement in the bass, are clearly audible.
According to Heinz Renner from Mysphere there‘s no danger to do any damage to the ‘phones.
The loudness under these conditions is already quite high.
So if you experience this, simply dial back volume a little.
Quite often when hearing distortions I found that it’s not Mysphere, but the music already contains lots of overdrive from the “Loudness War”-treatment.
The sound effect is similar, but dialing back volume doesn’t help in this case.
Fortunately the EQ’s warmer and punchier bass covers a bit of this annoyance.
The EQ’s ca. 7 dB bass boost is partly counteracted by the removal of subs that would tax Mysphere’s driver excursion much more.
I suggest to try the EQ, you’ll soon find out if you like it.
One can even use parts of the EQ, like only the bass, midrange or treble contour.
I have some EQ-variations stored in presets.
But this one is my clear favorite, along with the more sub-extended EQ for bass-shy recordings, that I already published earlier here:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/mys...und-design-build-quality.819658/post-16796657
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John Buchanan
1000+ Head-Fier
@KaiSc are you using the "B" (bass enhanced) pads?
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Yes, but I have the B-Cushions about 1 cm distant from my ears.
According to Heinz Renner, my own experience and even my own measurements there is no bass enhancement using them this way.
Counter checked without any cushions at all to confirmed the above.
The Bass-Cushions have some effect on the midrange and treble (relative to no cushions) that I have taken into account setting the EQ.
I don’t have the Standard- or Transparent-Cushions to compare or measure, so can’t make an exact statement about their difference.
These measurements by Heinz might give a hint:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/mys...und-design-build-quality.819658/post-15467469
Here’s a detailed description, kind of review, of the Bass-Cushions that nails it:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/mys...und-design-build-quality.819658/post-16480406
Listening without cushions for a while brought up the idea to get some fully open ones, just the frame and one single layer of wire mesh, for protection of the drivers.
But finally I’m quite satisfied with the way Mysphere 3.2 sound the way I have them.
As mentioned, to try my EQ, use it as a good start, but I suggest to adjust some Band Gains to personal taste.
It’s always a matter of personal preference, and in this case even depends how one wears the Mysphere 3.
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stuart1927
100+ Head-Fier
I just bought a pair of Mysphere 3.2's and have had a few weeks to get to know them. I wish I'd found this thread before and will need to delve in a bit, maybe I would have found some of the quirks earlier! Firstly, as I've heard mentioned and no doubt covered elsewhere on this thread, these are extremely niche headphones. They do not work well with many modern music genres with any hint of low bass (I.e. Much below 50-60Hz). They certainly do distort and not necessarily just with "bass heavy" music. It seems anything with a large db differential also throws things off. I was initially really frustrated by this. A couple of tracks in particular...Pineapple thief's "version of the truth" has a very low boom in the early part of the track that the Myspheres just can't handle at all (even at low volume) Similarly bass/kick drums can sound very distorted/distressed or thuddy. I've basically written them off for listening to any kind of modern music with a lot of dynamics or lower frequencies.
However, classical recordings (or anything truly acoustic) can be absolutely magical! So much so that I've pretty much adopted them as my go to headphones for these genres. It's perhaps too much to expect a headphone to do everything, but my Heddphone's (in my view) come closest in terms of sound.....but their weight/comfort ultimately make them less than ideal and they need real power, which luckily my Enleum amp 23R delivers. Similarly, my ZMF atrium's and Hifiman HE1kSE are great for many things and a better match for lower powered amps. However, none of those headphones match the Mysphere for orchestral music, so although I was initially disappointed, I've come to appreciate what they can do....with specific recordings.
However, classical recordings (or anything truly acoustic) can be absolutely magical! So much so that I've pretty much adopted them as my go to headphones for these genres. It's perhaps too much to expect a headphone to do everything, but my Heddphone's (in my view) come closest in terms of sound.....but their weight/comfort ultimately make them less than ideal and they need real power, which luckily my Enleum amp 23R delivers. Similarly, my ZMF atrium's and Hifiman HE1kSE are great for many things and a better match for lower powered amps. However, none of those headphones match the Mysphere for orchestral music, so although I was initially disappointed, I've come to appreciate what they can do....with specific recordings.
I agree that the Mysphere 3 isn’t made for earthshaking sub-bass.
This is an inherent, natural limit of it’s fully open-air, or “hoover ear” design.
Still, it can do punchy lows, specially if treated with the EQ I have posted right above:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/mys...und-design-build-quality.819658/post-17398912
Of the track you mentioned, “The Pineapple Thief - Versions of the Truth”, two releases exist, with different masterings done:
The 2020 Snapper Music Ltd. release has an extremely boosted sub-range and the peak levels / dynamics
are squashed into distortion for maximum loudness, showing the effect you describe even on my AUDEZE LCD-4 (the “King of Darkness“), that will never distort by itself:
https://tidal.com/track/143178606
The newer 2021 Kscope release still has a lot of subs, but is more balanced, and it’s peaks / dynamics much better preserved.
This version (“... of the Truth
) plays just fine on Mysphere here.I’m just listening to the whole album on Mysphere, a little louder than I usually do, with no problems and great fun.
Thanx for the recommendation, BTW:
https://tidal.com/track/192873481
Mysphere, compared AUDEZE LCD-4, sounds much more detailed, showing flaws of the recording obviously, where the LCD-4 is more forgiving, on cost of differentiation and transparency.
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My recollection of first hearing the Myspheres (demo at home) was similar to the first time I heard Magnapan loudspeakers. The Magnapans simply disappeared, and the instruments and vocals just floated in space. I immediately promised myself that the next pair of speakers would be Magnapans; they were expensive but I right then decided I'd just live with what I had until Magnapans were in my budget... (I kind of lived up to that promise, as I still have my Thiel 2.0s from 1990 and have never replaced them.) My conclusion is, the Myspheres headphones do many many of the same wonderful things for vocals and stringed instruments that properly set up Magnapans will do. Now that I have the rest of my system "complete", maybe I need to try the Myspheres again. My LTA amplifier certainly has enough headroom (at 12 wpc) to do a nice job with the Myspheres. I think when I listened to them before I was still using the PASS Labs HPA-1 headphone amplifier, which is still a nice amp, and I loved the Myspheres then.
Regardless, there is nearly nothing better for vocals and jazz and orchestral music - and really, much of the rock and roll produced from 1960s (when they used lots of strings and horns even with pop and rock music, maybe it was all the same thing then...) all the way to 2000. Unless you want to completely re-vamp your system with the Raals, for many/most types of music there is no headphone (listening experience) as pleasing as the Myspheres, at all.
Regardless, there is nearly nothing better for vocals and jazz and orchestral music - and really, much of the rock and roll produced from 1960s (when they used lots of strings and horns even with pop and rock music, maybe it was all the same thing then...) all the way to 2000. Unless you want to completely re-vamp your system with the Raals, for many/most types of music there is no headphone (listening experience) as pleasing as the Myspheres, at all.
hrklg01
Member of the Trade: Mysphere
AKG K1000 developer
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Fakt ist jedoch, dass Sie die Verzerrungen auf der von der Quelle erzeugten Leitung messen können, die Mysphere ohne „Filterung“ an Ihre Ohren überträgt.
Es ist nur so, dass sich diese Kopfhörer nicht auf die Originalaufnahmen auswirken.
Fakt ist jedoch, dass Sie die Verzerrungen auf der von der Quelle erzeugten Leitung messen können, die Mysphere ohne „Filterung“ an Ihre Ohren überträgt.
Es ist nur so, dass sich diese Kopfhörer nicht auf die Originalaufnahmen auswirken.
I have been going through a few of the amplifiers from SAEQ (Serbian Audio Equipment) helmed by Dragan Domanovic. They are perhaps still a well kept secret except for those of us who have heard their impressive amplifiers for RAAL Requisite ribbon HPs, like the HSA-1c, the VM1a. Jaben Singapore, which is also the AD for MySphere in Singapore, brought in the SEAQ amplifiers for ribbon HPs as well as their normal amplifiers. Wilson very kindly asked me to give the range a listen for my impressions.
This is the SAEQ Morpheus. I spent yesterday evening listening to the MySphere 3.2 on the Morpheus. Excellent combination.
I am surprised that the Morpheus is so competitively priced. In terms of specifications, I think it holds its own vis-a-vis the rest of the range. What I will say about the sound signature of the Morpheus is this: it is similar to the flagship Hyperion Ge in that it is tuned to be more focused on an organic and slightly “sweeter” portrayal of the music.
Because of that, the MS 3.2 sounds very rich and there is excellent depth of soundstage (in addition to the wide soundstage of course). There is excellent note weight. There is a nice rumble in the QQ Music tracks I enjoy listening. In the style of the period drama music soundtracks.
You can see that I only have it at around 6/24 on -5 dB attenuation. What I do enjoy about the Morpheus is the possibility to have direct drive with no attenuation and then attenuation of -5 dB and -10 dB. YMMV but at this point of the volume pot, i find it to be at its sweet spot. There is excellent density and sound saturation.
The Morpheus is definitely something to try if you have happen to pass by Jaben SG.
This is the SAEQ Morpheus. I spent yesterday evening listening to the MySphere 3.2 on the Morpheus. Excellent combination.
I am surprised that the Morpheus is so competitively priced. In terms of specifications, I think it holds its own vis-a-vis the rest of the range. What I will say about the sound signature of the Morpheus is this: it is similar to the flagship Hyperion Ge in that it is tuned to be more focused on an organic and slightly “sweeter” portrayal of the music.
Because of that, the MS 3.2 sounds very rich and there is excellent depth of soundstage (in addition to the wide soundstage of course). There is excellent note weight. There is a nice rumble in the QQ Music tracks I enjoy listening. In the style of the period drama music soundtracks.
You can see that I only have it at around 6/24 on -5 dB attenuation. What I do enjoy about the Morpheus is the possibility to have direct drive with no attenuation and then attenuation of -5 dB and -10 dB. YMMV but at this point of the volume pot, i find it to be at its sweet spot. There is excellent density and sound saturation.
The Morpheus is definitely something to try if you have happen to pass by Jaben SG.
Nice, Mysphere indeed are great ‘phones.
Did you notice the little typo on Morpheus: “Delay” should have one “l” only.
If you’re in contact, could give them a hint.
Did you notice the little typo on Morpheus: “Delay” should have one “l” only.
If you’re in contact, could give them a hint.
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