MYSPHERE 3.1-UNIQUE in SOUND&DESIGN&BUILD QUALITY

Oct 27, 2024 at 8:20 PM Post #1,501 of 1,535
I Woo Audio is still selling them in US. If my Mysphere died and I couldn’t get it repaired I would consider to replace it with the Composer. How would you compare the two?
Imaging isn't as precise or is it quite as holographic, Composer sounds more like a conventional headphone of course, but a very good one

Imo much like my Susvara in that it doesn't wow you with much but just doesn't make any mistakes, it's just really well tuned with totl SQ.

It's more elevated in the bass and no contest there honestly, Composer wins. Composer is getting better and better the more I listen to it the more I like it. Composer has a very airy natural sound, with lighting fast transitions much like MySphere, very fast for a dynamic driver, very punchy sounding while still remaining neutral. Definitely not boring. Seals behind the ear! About the first headphone I've had that actually seals behind the ear without pushing them forward.

Highly recommend trying them out, unfortunately I have to blind buy everything I get so buying used is the only way for me, as I don't lose to much if I don't like them, so far they are looking like they will be keepers along with MySphere and Susvara
 
Oct 28, 2024 at 9:37 AM Post #1,502 of 1,535
Dec 3, 2024 at 7:38 PM Post #1,503 of 1,535
I've finally concluded for my ears these have the most magic with pads touching my ears, just a very nice ethereal experience..and bass!
 
Dec 4, 2024 at 1:35 PM Post #1,506 of 1,535
Yes, MYSPHERE is designed in that way that the Soundframes just levitating above the ear. Like hovering.
Of course, when the distance increase, the speciality increase as well.
So it's adjustable to the personal preferences as well to the recordings.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single headphone that has so many "voices". Different earpads (T/S/B), frames rotate in/out and up/down and takes EQ very well. And the connecting cord can be plugged in left or right. I don't know why everybody here doesn't have one.
 
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Dec 4, 2024 at 4:14 PM Post #1,507 of 1,535
Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single headphone that has so many "voices". Different earpads (T/S/B), frames rotate in/out and up/down and takes EQ very well. And the connecting cord can be plugged in left or right. I don't know why everybody here doesn't have one.
It seemed that me around the height of MySphere buzz the sr1a was coming out and stole the limelight and many assumed the new ribbon" was technically better and a upgrade to this style of ear speaker.

I have heard people preferring MySphere and giving some fairly definitive technicalities to back up their preferences.

While I haven't owned the sr1a I did own the Ca1a and prefer the SQ of MySphere. I think a relaunch the MySphere should happen :)
 
Dec 5, 2024 at 6:15 AM Post #1,508 of 1,535
It seemed that me around the height of MySphere buzz the sr1a was coming out and stole the limelight and many assumed the new ribbon" was technically better and a upgrade to this style of ear speaker.
Personally, I think it did play the role, but based on my experience and the experience of 6 other people I have lent the Mysphere to, there are several other reasons why the Mysphere didn't become as popular as it might have been. Now, when the production is over (and presumably the sales), I think it won't hurt the team behind the project if I write my opinion here (I didn't want to write it before since I deeply respect Heinz):

1. The headband.
All 6 people I have given the Mysphere to complained about it. It was simply not comfortable enough for them - either the headphones didn't sit firm enough on the head, or there were painful spots (usually below the tips). For me personally when the soundframes are fully closed, the comfort is decent, but no more than that (for example the AKG K812 is way more comfortable), and when I open them for some reason the Mysphere gets less stable on my head and the comfort is worse. For me in terms of comfort the Mysphere with fully-closed soundframes is about the same as the K1000 (both not very comfortable) and with with open soundframes it is worse.
As far as I remember the headband was designed by scanning and averaging heads of many people so that it would be comfortable to most of them. But maybe people where I live have a little bit different head shapes, for example there can be some variations based on the ethnicity, but some in this thread also complained.

2. The soundstage.
Many people who were waiting for the AKG K1000 successor thought the Mysphere was also going to have that "speaker-like" big sound with massive soundstage and natural crossfeed. But the Mysphere doesn't have it. Actually, with the soundframes full-closed the soundstage is quite small and the sound is much more "inside your head" than some conventional headphones, such as the Sennheiser HD800. That was the main complaint in terms of sound from other the K1000 owners who were considering the upgrade to the Mysphere.

3. The soundframes touching the ears as the main mode of listening of the Mysphere.
I've noticed that many people don't like when earpads touch their ears. Somehow it is annoying to them. Over the years I've seen many threads on different forums where people were asking for advice about headphones with earpads with large openings. But it is the main mode for the Mysphere - the headphones were designed to be listened that way. It is not as bad as for some over-ear headphones, since there is no pressure, but still.
Actually, I've noticed that when you give the Mysphere to any person, they always try to listen to them with the soundframes open to some extent, usually a lot. And since it is not the optimal mode, they don't hear the Mysphere to their fullest potential and also the bass is quite weak (see below).

4. The bass.
The Mysphere was released with only normal frames and with those the bass is perceived relatively weak. Actually, when you listen to the Mysphere with soundframes away from the ears, there seems to be even less bass than in the K1000.
The bass frames were a big improvement, and with them the Mysphere has excellent bass when the soundframes fully closed, but they don't help when you open them (and see above people trying to wear the Mysphere that way). Also, the bass frames were released much later on, when all the buzz around the headphones was over, no more CanJams where people can hear them with new frames and so on.

5. You cannot listen the Mysphere loudly.
Some people really like to listen to headphones very loudly, but the Mysphere starts to reach the limit of the driver's excursion quite early and when it does there are audible distortions, and many people reported them. When you listen to music with a large amount of deep bass at a concert-like volume, you can hear it rattle (the driver probably touches its limits).

6. Tonal balance of the Mysphere is not for everybody.
I've noticed that some people, especially, it seems, from Asia, like bright headphones, when highs have some "sparkle" . That guy Crinacle (who is Asian) described it this way:
Probably the most offensive thing about the 3.2 is the vocals; very shouty and uncharacteristically in-your-face despite the earspeaker configuration. Interestingly enough the 3.2 is shouty whilst also being somewhat dark in its treble presentation (one may even consider it “smooth”), making for a double-whammy of contrasting tonalities.
While I don't agree with him fully, his description of treble is somewhat correct. For some it can be a good thing, like for myself, since there is no fatigue from piercing treble, but some don't like such presentation.

Don't get me wrong, I do like the Mysphere and it has many redeeming qualities that I have not mentioned since there are not related to the topic.
 
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Dec 5, 2024 at 6:31 AM Post #1,509 of 1,535
Thank you for the open and surely individual depending true/untrue impressions.

No problem and of sure also I myself know this cases. And for those who expected a true follower of the K1000 - which was never our aim and not really promoted as that - mainly true.

However, the main aims compared to the K1K was - as severaly explained:
> Improve drastically the impulse behavier to become mcu faster

> Improve the fixation on the head to avoid the boring pressure points above the ears.

> No need for any special high power amplifier

> Easy to transport (possibility to fold it to a compact size)

> Long lasting material - especially to overcome the problems of foams (inside the K1K) and the membrane fixation)

> More bass - at least when close to the ear

As it's always a compromise when you create a target specification, that was the main and simplified targets for MYSPHERE 3.x

But I'm happy to know, that so many of you honored it and are now happy with the product and of sure for a very long time.

BR Heinz
 
Dec 5, 2024 at 6:51 AM Post #1,510 of 1,535
Personally, I think it did play the role, but based on my experience and the experience of 6 other people I have lent the Mysphere to, there are several other reasons why the Mysphere didn't become as popular as it might have been. Now, when the production is over (and presumably the sales), I think it won't hurt the team behind the project if I write my opinion here (I didn't want to write it before since I deeply respect Heinz):

1. The headband.
All 6 people I have given the Mysphere to complained about it. It was simply not comfortable enough for them - either the headphones didn't sit firm enough on the head, or there were painful spots (usually below the tips). For me personally when the soundframes are fully closed, the comfort is decent, but no more than that (for example the AKG K812 is way more comfortable), and when I open them for some reason the Mysphere gets less stable on my head and the comfort is worse. For me in terms of comfort the Mysphere with fully-closed soundframes is about the same as the K1000 (both not very comfortable) and with with open soundframes it is worse.
As far as I remember the headband was designed by scanning and averaging heads of many people so that it would be comfortable to most of them. But maybe people where I live have a little bit different head shapes, for example there can be some variations based on the ethnicity, but some in this thread also complained.

2. The soundstage.
Many people who were waiting for the AKG K1000 successor thought the Mysphere was also going to have that "speaker-like" big sound with massive soundstage and natural crossfeed. But the Mysphere doesn't have it. Actually, with the soundframes full-closed the soundstage is quite small and the sound is much more "inside your head" than some conventional headphones, such as the Sennheiser HD800. That was the main complaint in terms of sound from other the K1000 owners who were considering the upgrade to the Mysphere.

3. The soundframes touching the ears as the main mode of listening of the Mysphere.
I've noticed that many people don't like when earpads touch their ears. Somehow it is annoying to them. Over the years I've seen many threads on different forums where people were asking for advice about headphones with earpads with large openings. But it is the main mode for the Mysphere - the headphones were designed to be listened that way. It is not as bad as for some over-ear headphones, since there is no pressure, but still.
Actually, I've noticed that when you give the Mysphere to any person, they always try to listen to them with the soundframes open to some extent, usually a lot. And since it is not the optimal mode, they don't hear the Mysphere to their fullest potential and also the bass is quite weak (see below).

4. The bass.
The Mysphere was released with only normal frames and with those the bass is perceived relatively weak. Actually, when you listen to the Mysphere with soundframes away from the ears, there seems to be even less bass than in the K1000.
The bass frames were a big improvement, and with them the Mysphere has excellent bass when the soundframes fully closed, but they don't help when you open them (and see above people trying to wear the Mysphere that way). Also, the bass frames were released much later on, when all the buzz around the headphones was over, no more CanJams where people can hear them with new frames and so on.

5. You cannot listen the Mysphere loudly.
Some people really like to listen to headphones very loudly, but the Mysphere starts to reach the limit of the driver's excursion quite early and when it does there are audible distortions, and many people reported them. When you listen to music with a large amount of deep bass at a concert-like volume, you can hear it rattle (the driver probably touches its limits).

6. Tonal balance of the Mysphere is not for everybody.
I've noticed that some people, especially, it seems, from Asia, like bright headphones, when highs have some "sparkle" . That guy Crinacle (who is Asian) described it this way:

While I don't agree with him fully, his description of treble is somewhat correct. For some it can be a good thing, like for myself, since there is no fatigue from piercing treble, but some don't like such presentation.

Don't get me wrong, I do like the Mysphere and it has many redeeming qualities that I have not mentioned since there are not related to the topic.
That's great feedback, hopefully for the future. AKG K1000 was certainly a flawed product, and even though I own Raal Sr1, the K1000 is the ONE headphone I regret the most about selling. If AKG is monitoring the 'net, why the AkG K2000 is not out there is WAY beyond me..
 
Dec 5, 2024 at 7:02 AM Post #1,511 of 1,535
Interesting observations, I don't share any of them but still fascinating 😆 I find them comfortable. Very wide sounding, and very outside my head and holographic :)
 
Dec 5, 2024 at 7:40 AM Post #1,512 of 1,535
The soundstage, and I see it as a drawback of my design, is extremely depending on the exact position you wear the soundframes relative to the ear entrance.
Moving up and down and away and close is making such a hughe impact.
This effect is one reason why MYSPHRERE 3 get so much different feedback.
 
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Dec 5, 2024 at 7:44 AM Post #1,513 of 1,535
The soundstage, and I see as a drawback of my design, is extremely depending on the exact position your wear the soundframes relative to the ear entrance.
Moving up and down and away and close is making such hughe impact.
This effect is one reason why MYSPHRERE 3 get so much different feedback.
Agree. I found some write up about where the ear cushion should be in relation to the ear canal and I never looked back since then. I still enjoy both the 3.1 and 3.2 tremendously. :)
 
Dec 5, 2024 at 8:00 AM Post #1,514 of 1,535
B.T.W.:
The main problem I see for a "real follower" of the K1K is the porblem to get an good solution to wear it with good fixation but without hurts to the human head and skin.
Also RAAL tried, but almost copied the K1K idea only.
If there would any great idea from this community, may be - without promising anything - I'll try to create something new.
BR yours heinz
 
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Dec 5, 2024 at 11:59 AM Post #1,515 of 1,535
Personally, I think it did play the role, but based on my experience and the experience of 6 other people I have lent the Mysphere to, there are several other reasons why the Mysphere didn't become as popular as it might have been. Now, when the production is over (and presumably the sales), I think it won't hurt the team behind the project if I write my opinion here (I didn't want to write it before since I deeply respect Heinz):

1. The headband.
All 6 people I have given the Mysphere to complained about it. It was simply not comfortable enough for them - either the headphones didn't sit firm enough on the head, or there were painful spots (usually below the tips). For me personally when the soundframes are fully closed, the comfort is decent, but no more than that (for example the AKG K812 is way more comfortable), and when I open them for some reason the Mysphere gets less stable on my head and the comfort is worse. For me in terms of comfort the Mysphere with fully-closed soundframes is about the same as the K1000 (both not very comfortable) and with with open soundframes it is worse.
As far as I remember the headband was designed by scanning and averaging heads of many people so that it would be comfortable to most of them. But maybe people where I live have a little bit different head shapes, for example there can be some variations based on the ethnicity, but some in this thread also complained.

2. The soundstage.
Many people who were waiting for the AKG K1000 successor thought the Mysphere was also going to have that "speaker-like" big sound with massive soundstage and natural crossfeed. But the Mysphere doesn't have it. Actually, with the soundframes full-closed the soundstage is quite small and the sound is much more "inside your head" than some conventional headphones, such as the Sennheiser HD800. That was the main complaint in terms of sound from other the K1000 owners who were considering the upgrade to the Mysphere.

3. The soundframes touching the ears as the main mode of listening of the Mysphere.
I've noticed that many people don't like when earpads touch their ears. Somehow it is annoying to them. Over the years I've seen many threads on different forums where people were asking for advice about headphones with earpads with large openings. But it is the main mode for the Mysphere - the headphones were designed to be listened that way. It is not as bad as for some over-ear headphones, since there is no pressure, but still.
Actually, I've noticed that when you give the Mysphere to any person, they always try to listen to them with the soundframes open to some extent, usually a lot. And since it is not the optimal mode, they don't hear the Mysphere to their fullest potential and also the bass is quite weak (see below).

4. The bass.
The Mysphere was released with only normal frames and with those the bass is perceived relatively weak. Actually, when you listen to the Mysphere with soundframes away from the ears, there seems to be even less bass than in the K1000.
The bass frames were a big improvement, and with them the Mysphere has excellent bass when the soundframes fully closed, but they don't help when you open them (and see above people trying to wear the Mysphere that way). Also, the bass frames were released much later on, when all the buzz around the headphones was over, no more CanJams where people can hear them with new frames and so on.

5. You cannot listen the Mysphere loudly.
Some people really like to listen to headphones very loudly, but the Mysphere starts to reach the limit of the driver's excursion quite early and when it does there are audible distortions, and many people reported them. When you listen to music with a large amount of deep bass at a concert-like volume, you can hear it rattle (the driver probably touches its limits).

6. Tonal balance of the Mysphere is not for everybody.
I've noticed that some people, especially, it seems, from Asia, like bright headphones, when highs have some "sparkle" . That guy Crinacle (who is Asian) described it this way:

While I don't agree with him fully, his description of treble is somewhat correct. For some it can be a good thing, like for myself, since there is no fatigue from piercing treble, but some don't like such presentation.

Don't get me wrong, I do like the Mysphere and it has many redeeming qualities that I have not mentioned since there are not related to the topic.


i also said that they have distortion, when listening in a noisy place, have to increase the volume to 70-80% then the distortion appears clearly. i said this in this topic, but was criticized and attacked by mysphere fans.

i also really like myspheres, and they are very unique, but they have a lot of issues and are not perfect!
 

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