[pdrm360]

  Crap. Does that mean that AD owners must also buy the HD800?? This is getting expensive....

 
NO, just need to buy an Woo Audio Headphones Stand. 

 

[pdrm360]

   
A convertible Ferrari and a burgundy Civic?  

 
The Alpha Dog looks Optimus Prime to me. 

 

 

[koiloco]

   
The Alpha Dog looks Optimus Prime to me. 

 

lmao! you are full of imagination. 

 

[rckyosho]

  It looks the Woo Audio stand is made for the AD and the AD’s stand is good for the HD800. Win Win
 

Nah.......A cheap banana stand should do the job fine

 
While the AD stand is good for the MD

 

 
Notice anything different on my AD's headband?

 

[pdrm360]

  Nah.......A cheap banana stand should do the job fine

 
While the AD stand is good for the MD

 

 
Notice anything different on my AD's headband?

 
Hmm... interesting, I like this.

 

[Sinocelt]

  Notice anything different on my AD's headband?

 
No FOSTEX written. You reversed it?

 

[rckyosho]

   
No FOSTEX written. You reversed it?

Yeah that's basically what I did 

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[koolas]

Happy 2014 to you!

I was wondering about loudspeakers. I very much got used to detailed sound of Alpha Dogs, and my loudspeakers are less detailed.
I've got QA 2050i powered from NAD T744 toslink-ed to LG BP630. Loudspeakers are connected two 7m cables, and each cable has two stranded copper wires around 1mm thick.

I've been to an audiophile shop and guy told me that better cable would change a lot if it comes to detail. I started wondering if that can be true. In theory it makes sense, but I think it's probably a bulls***t, and it's these QA 2050i not delivering enough detail. What do you think? Are there any loudspeakers you can think of that sound like Alpha Dogs?

 

[apenney]

Some people will disagree, but generally the cable makes little difference.  You would be far better off buying better speakers than mucking around with cables.  Like with most things, changing the biggest thing that shapes the audio will have the biggest effect.  You're better off with $1000 speakers and $10 cable than $500 speakers and $500 cable!

 

[Clemmaster]

  Some people will disagree, but generally the cable makes little difference.  You would be far better off buying better speakers than mucking around with cables.  Like with most things, changing the biggest thing that shapes the audio will have the biggest effect.  You're better off with $1000 speakers and $10 cable than $500 speakers and $500 cable!

 
This is not a fair comparison, the first system costs $10 more! I will obviously sound better because of that...

 

[koolas]

No, quite seriously QA 2050i is indeed $500 price point. They sound more detailed than my RH-A30 headphones, but definitely less than Alpha Dogs, with which I can hear very subtle things. I was wondering maybe if I remove speaker covers I'd get better sound, but still it's not going to be Alpha Dogs grade. When I was buying QA 2050i I have also given a listen to wharfdale Diamond 155 and 157, and I really didn't like their sound signature. I liked clarity of cymbals on QA 2050i more. However at home I can see that Diamonds would probably give me more detail. Anyone other opinions? Main question remains: Which loudspeakers you recon will sound exactly the same as Alpha Dogs? Maybe monitors? How about KRK?

 

[Greed]

No, quite seriously QA 2050i is indeed $500 price point. They sound more detailed than my RH-A30 headphones, but definitely less than Alpha Dogs, with which I can hear very subtle things. I was wondering maybe if I remove speaker covers I'd get better sound, but still it's not going to be Alpha Dogs grade. When I was buying QA 2050i I have also given a listen to wharfdale Diamond 155 and 157, and I really didn't like their sound signature. I liked clarity of cymbals on QA 2050i more. However at home I can see that Diamonds would probably give me more detail. Anyone other opinions? Main question remains: Which loudspeakers you recon will sound exactly the same as Alpha Dogs? Maybe monitors? How about KRK?

 
Comparing headphones to speakers is not really a fair comparison at all. You won't be able to find a speaker that sounds identical in sound to any headphone, just simple physics and design limitations. They both have their strong points. I've found that until you spend some real money on speakers, headphones are going to sound more detailed. IMO because the driver is closer ergo soundwaves have less distance to travel. 

 

[koolas]

You are right and not right at the same time. If you take loudspeakers from $10k-15k price range I'm pretty sure they will out-do Alpha Dogs with huge margin. So the question remains, if you were to get level of detail similar to Alpha Dogs, which speakers or at what price point would they be?

BTW Removing dust covers helped, but it's still not as much detail as Alpha Dogs, so I recon that something in higher price range like 1k-2k should be close to Alpha Dog. I'm pretty sure there are people here who listen not only to headphones, but they also listen to speakers, so I'd love to hear their opinion.

 

[Greed]

You are right and not right at the same time. If you take loudspeakers from $10k-15k price range I'm pretty sure they will out-do Alpha Dogs with huge margin. So the question remains, if you were to get level of detail similar to Alpha Dogs, which speakers or at what price point would they be?

BTW Removing dust covers helped, but it's still not as much detail as Alpha Dogs, so I recon that something in higher price range like 1k-2k should be close to Alpha Dog. I'm pretty sure there are people here who listen not only to headphones, but they also listen to speakers, so I'd love to hear their opinion.

 
I said you need to spend good money to get similar amount of detail from speakers, don't see how that differs from what you just regurgitated. In any event yes, I agree some good monitors would be close. But again, there are so many variables. 
 
I don't listen to just headphones, and am familiar with the differences, no "schooling" needed. 

 

[kstuart]

Happy 2014 to you!

I was wondering about loudspeakers. I very much got used to detailed sound of Alpha Dogs, and my loudspeakers are less detailed.
I've got QA 2050i powered from NAD T744 toslink-ed to LG BP630. Loudspeakers are connected two 7m cables, and each cable has two stranded copper wires around 1mm thick.

I've been to an audiophile shop and guy told me that better cable would change a lot if it comes to detail. I started wondering if that can be true. In theory it makes sense, but I think it's probably a bulls***t, and it's these QA 2050i not delivering enough detail. What do you think? Are there any loudspeakers you can think of that sound like Alpha Dogs?

Are you listening to the Alpha Dogs out of the NAD T744 ?