MrSpeakers Alpha Dog Revealed! - The World's First Production 3D-Printed Headphones
Dec 10, 2013 at 11:58 AM Post #4,411 of 9,071
There are lots of neat cable products out there, I wouldn't want to pick favorites, honestly.  
 
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Dec 10, 2013 at 1:07 PM Post #4,412 of 9,071
That deep red silk cable on the attached Alpha Dog phones photo looks beautiful, fit together perfectly...

Might be something Dan would want to consider selling in the future, as an upgrade option over the standard cable that goes with the headphones!

Uh, someone is selling them - the owner who took the picture had to pay money for them.
 
If you want your own, I'm sure the professional cable guys will be glad to make you whatever you want.  There are plenty of cable makers known to head-fi members.
 
Honda and Toyota don't make tires, but it is easy to get tires for those cars.
 
Dec 10, 2013 at 1:08 PM Post #4,413 of 9,071
Mainstream media coverage of Alpha Dogs as example of 3D printing:
 
http://money.cnn.com/gallery/smallbusiness/2013/12/10/3d-printers/2.html
 
Dec 10, 2013 at 2:32 PM Post #4,414 of 9,071
   
We wouldn't offer a cable like that because it puts the phones out of reach of many people, but that some find it worth investing is pretty cool....  It's certainly beautiful!

 
Also, and I might be the only one, if you offered a $300 cable, it would lead me to believe you feel a $300 cable somehow improves the listening experience. That would effect the credibility of everything else you have to say.
 
For example, if anyone told me you need to use these to improve the sound quality of your audio equipment, I don't think I would believe anything they had to say.
http://www.thecableco.com/Product/Power-Cord-Ferrite-II-New-Edition
 
Dec 10, 2013 at 2:44 PM Post #4,415 of 9,071
   
Also, and I might be the only one, if you offered a $300 cable, it would lead me to believe you feel a $300 cable somehow improves the listening experience. That would effect the credibility of everything else you have to say.
 
For example, if anyone told me you need to use these to improve the sound quality of your audio equipment, I don't think I would believe anything they had to say.
http://www.thecableco.com/Product/Power-Cord-Ferrite-II-New-Edition

 
When you pay $1,300 for the cable then you have to believe. 
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Dec 10, 2013 at 3:41 PM Post #4,417 of 9,071
So I take it Dan won't be starting a partnership with Teo Audio and offering "liquid" recables: http://www.teoaudio.com/liquid_cable.php
 
Nothing like throwing away a few thousand for something with lower conductivity than lead, just so you can say that its liquid.  But hey, on the upside, they no longer have to ship them with a hazmat designation...
 
Dec 10, 2013 at 7:48 PM Post #4,418 of 9,071
 
   
We wouldn't offer a cable like that because it puts the phones out of reach of many people, but that some find it worth investing is pretty cool....  It's certainly beautiful!

 
Also, and I might be the only one, if you offered a $300 cable, it would lead me to believe you feel a $300 cable somehow improves the listening experience. That would effect the credibility of everything else you have to say.
 
For example, if anyone told me you need to use these to improve the sound quality of your audio equipment, I don't think I would believe anything they had to say.
http://www.thecableco.com/Product/Power-Cord-Ferrite-II-New-Edition


Actually that is an unscientific viewpoint.
 
Whether or not any particular change in your system is audible has absolutely nothing to do with the price.  If Sennheiser charged $18,000 for their HD800 headphones, they would be precisely as good (or not) as they are at $1,800.  Or if they charged $180 for the HD800, they would still be exactly the same, sound-wise.
 
Coincidentally, people today are criticizing Sennheiser for pricing their new balanced headphone cable at $240 - http://en-us.sennheiser.com/ch-650-s
 
Dec 10, 2013 at 7:55 PM Post #4,419 of 9,071
 
Actually that is an unscientific viewpoint.
 
Whether or not any particular change in your system is audible has absolutely nothing to do with the price.  If Sennheiser charged $18,000 for their HD800 headphones, they would be precisely as good (or not) as they are at $1,800.  Or if they charged $180 for the HD800, they would still be exactly the same, sound-wise.
 
Coincidentally, people today are criticizing Sennheiser for pricing their new balanced headphone cable at $240 - http://en-us.sennheiser.com/ch-650-s

 
How about if Sennheiser painted there HD800's white, and said that reflecting light caused them to run cooler, thus producing a better sound, and then charged $18,000 for them?
 
Power is power. Changing the last few feet of a 60 foot run from a breaker is going to do nothing with respect to how clean it is. It's just steeling from people.
 
At least the red cable in the above post provides some functionality over stock (lighter, more flexible, pretty). This power cable provides nothing over a $10 option.
 
Dec 10, 2013 at 8:34 PM Post #4,420 of 9,071
There seems to be an irresistible pull to OT content.  Power cables and general debates about cables not related to the AD are OT and really don't belong here.  
 
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Dec 10, 2013 at 8:43 PM Post #4,422 of 9,071
  There seems to be an irresistible pull to OT content.  Power cables and general debates about cables not related to the AD are OT and really don't belong here.  

 
Not a lot of new content out there to talk about every day with respect to the AD's. Not a complete bad thing to keep the thread active with some slight deviation. We seem to always come back to the AD's after a few posts.
 
:)
 
Dec 10, 2013 at 8:46 PM Post #4,423 of 9,071
We're shipping Oct 23 right now.  We had a couple of big distributor orders that week and their turn is up so there will be an "stall" on orders then a lot should go out late this week or early next week.
 
So we're at about 7 weeks....
 
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Dec 10, 2013 at 9:08 PM Post #4,424 of 9,071
 
 
Actually that is an unscientific viewpoint.
 
Whether or not any particular change in your system is audible has absolutely nothing to do with the price.  If Sennheiser charged $18,000 for their HD800 headphones, they would be precisely as good (or not) as they are at $1,800.  Or if they charged $180 for the HD800, they would still be exactly the same, sound-wise.
 
Coincidentally, people today are criticizing Sennheiser for pricing their new balanced headphone cable at $240 - http://en-us.sennheiser.com/ch-650-s

 
How about if Sennheiser painted there HD800's white, and said that reflecting light caused them to run cooler, thus producing a better sound, and then charged $18,000 for them?
 
Power is power. Changing the last few feet of a 60 foot run from a breaker is going to do nothing with respect to how clean it is. It's just steeling from people.
 
At least the red cable in the above post provides some functionality over stock (lighter, more flexible, pretty). This power cable provides nothing over a $10 option.

I would tend to agree about these specific examples.
 
But my point is that your reasoning has nothing to do with price.  (The same reasoning applies to phone lines and DSL - changing the 10 feet in your house doesn't affect the 2 miles to the Central Office.)   So, the power cord could be $130 rather than $1300 and still be overpriced.
 
It's not the price that indicates whether something works or not.
 
Dec 10, 2013 at 9:22 PM Post #4,425 of 9,071
  I would tend to agree about these specific examples.
 
But my point is that your reasoning has nothing to do with price.  (The same reasoning applies to phone lines and DSL - changing the 10 feet in your house doesn't affect the 2 miles to the Central Office.)   So, the power cord could be $130 rather than $1300 and still be overpriced.
 
It's not the price that indicates whether something works or not.

How about keeping this thread focused on Alpha Dogs and not starting an extraneous debate about power cords or other cables.
 

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