Thank you for replying.
I am not looking for the HD 650 IEM version. As long as it is smooth and not dry sounding, I am good. Is it true that the mids on the KPE are on the dry side of the spectrum?
KPs are smooth and not dry for me, on a bit towards warm but only by little bit, actually they're sit on where the naturalness of warmth and details, mids are the best plus points of KP. They're not dry or analytical for me nor cold. HD650 if i'm not wrong, cause i don't have it anymore is more warm than KPE, but KP isn't dry. Some people maybe feel KP with just a little bit body to mids will be perfect, currently their mids are close to perfect if you get what i mean.
Do you have other iem? if you're coming from over ear heaphones, not only KP but all iem will be sounds much different. Definition of "large" soundstage in full sized headphone and iem is different too, you will need to adapt first. Although soundstage in KP is above average towards large in world of iem, they can't be compared to full size headphone of course.
Lush, musical and details KP have it all, and smooth from low end to highs, with massive sub bass like a subwoofer, but you may can feel lack of mid bass punch, but they responds very well to EQ. And "shrill" maybe at 2.5 khz /3 khz ( a lot of people sensitive to these range, including me) you may want to EQ them down.
The KPE is very EQable. I can get a massive low end with huge punch with some EQ, or leave it with no eq for a more polite and relaxed signature.
very very EQable, adding only 1db or cut it by 1db will make differences.
true, they take bass EQ like its noting
again this is true.
Thank you all for your suggestions. Sadly, none of these IEMs are available where I live.
I think I will pull the trigger on the KPE.
hopefully you'll like them
Well, I really have a hard time comparing over the ears with IEMs. The 600s have bigger sound stage and maybe, more of a scooped sound, larger sound anyways. I think the microdetail is about the same on both. I prefer the midrange of the KPE because it really sounds close to my JBL studio monitors w/ subwoofer. Still, its such a hard comparison. If I had to give some advice it would be to get the Sony EX800STs.
Yeah i agree, over ears can't be compared to iem, they sold for different purposes. Form factor tells all of us. 50mm drivers vs 10mm drivers, over the ears vs in ears, huge vs tiny. Over ears headphones (the good ones) definitely will have better soundstage, details, warmness, comfort, etc with trade off from their big form factor that not portable, and expensive.
EX800ST will be more warm than KP, you can read my comparison of KP and EX1000 in my review of KP, EX800 is more or less similar to EX800, just a bit more relaxed on highs (to be precise at 6khz and 8khz)