Monster Turbine Pro Copper Review
Aug 5, 2010 at 8:26 PM Post #16 of 93
Well I do like them and think they are up there with the best universals that I have tried but not for me. I can see some members liking them and possibly even making them happy with them for a very long time like some people here have. They just don't rank very high in my current lineup due to my preferences so they won't be getting any use anytime soon. I just think they are quite overpriced and I would rather have less accessories for a lower price tag. I do like them better than the TF10 however but I never had a great fit with the TF10 as they were very successful in trying to cause my ears lots of pain.
 
Aug 5, 2010 at 8:43 PM Post #17 of 93


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Well I do like them and think they are up there with the best universals that I have tried but not for me. I can see some members liking them and possibly even making them happy with them for a very long time like some people here have. They just don't rank very high in my current lineup due to my preferences so they won't be getting any use anytime soon. I just think they are quite overpriced and I would rather have less accessories for a lower price tag. I do like them better than the TF10 however but I never had a great fit with the TF10 as they were very successful in trying to cause my ears lots of pain.


You'll get no argument from me, but I was lucky enough to pay just over 1/2 the MSRP for them.  Which is where they should have been priced from day one. If the MSRP was $225 with the lifetime warranty, they would probably sell truckloads more.
 
 
Aug 5, 2010 at 10:05 PM Post #18 of 93
yup, i paid 209.00 usd.  I never would have been able to pay MSRP.  
 
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You'll get no argument from me, but I was lucky enough to pay just over 1/2 the MSRP for them.  Which is where they should have been priced from day one. If the MSRP was $225 with the lifetime warranty, they would probably sell truckloads more.
 



 
Aug 5, 2010 at 10:26 PM Post #19 of 93
I ended up paying $219 for them. They arrive tomorrow (yay!!)  Not as good a deal as others have gotton them for. Still, well below MSRP.
 
Aug 6, 2010 at 12:15 AM Post #20 of 93

awesome, congrats! 
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I ended up paying $219 for them. They arrive tomorrow (yay!!)  Not as good a deal as others have gotton them for. Still, well below MSRP.



 
Aug 6, 2010 at 12:32 AM Post #21 of 93


 
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awesome, congrats! 
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Why thank you kind sir! Hopefully they will come with all the latest tips. Btw, I noticed that onecall no longer has a "my price" option for the coppers anymore. The sales rep did mention to me that they were going to stop making them available at those far below retail prices. I guess she meant it.
 
Aug 6, 2010 at 1:09 AM Post #23 of 93


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Why thank you kind sir! Hopefully they will come with all the latest tips. Btw, I noticed that onecall no longer has a "my price" option for the coppers anymore. The sales rep did mention to me that they were going to stop making them available at those far below retail prices. I guess she meant it.


If they don't, send a PM to soundmatters12, he should be able to hook you up with them. 
 
LOL, I think you guys wore them out over there, but congrats on scoring them for almost 1/2 the MSRP.  Check out the burn in thread for some different opinions and options when you receive them.
 
 
Aug 6, 2010 at 1:23 AM Post #24 of 93


 
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If they don't, send a PM to soundmatters12, he should be able to hook you up with them. 
 
LOL, I think you guys wore them out over there, but congrats on scoring them for almost 1/2 the MSRP.  Check out the burn in thread for some different opinions and options when you receive them.
 


Thanks for the tip. I'll have to find out exactly how much are supposed to come with so I will know if the amount is off. As for onecall, I did mention in the comment section when sending my second "my price" offer that I belonged to an audio forum (didnt mention the name) and that I knew of people that were getting the coppers for around the price I originally "my priced" for. Which was $210. They respnded with $219.
 
Aug 6, 2010 at 11:11 AM Post #25 of 93
HeeHee, I'm actually female 
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  I should probably put that in my profile somewhere, as I think I am in the vast minority.  Oh, and they do come with all the latest tips.  An overwhelming number of tips, actually.  
 
That's interesting that OneCall is stopping the myprice on the coppers.   
 
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Why thank you kind sir! Hopefully they will come with all the latest tips. Btw, I noticed that onecall no longer has a "my price" option for the coppers anymore. The sales rep did mention to me that they were going to stop making them available at those far below retail prices. I guess she meant it.



 
Aug 6, 2010 at 1:54 PM Post #26 of 93
I found the coppers to extremely sensitive to tip type and insertion depth. With some tips, the bass was overwhelming and boomy. I eventually settled on the Sony Hybrids and the resulting bass is big, but tight. None of the Monster tips worked for me. I keep going back and forth between these and the TF10 as my favorites.
 
Aug 6, 2010 at 3:29 PM Post #27 of 93


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HeeHee, I'm actually female 
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  I should probably put that in my profile somewhere, as I think I am in the vast minority.  Oh, and they do come with all the latest tips.  An overwhelming number of tips, actually.  
 
That's interesting that OneCall is stopping the myprice on the coppers.   
 

 



Ooops!!! Me very sorry for assuming 
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Aug 7, 2010 at 12:07 AM Post #28 of 93
No worries! 
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  Frankly, I do it too; I've found to my chagrin that I pretty  much always assume the other posters on tech forums and gaming sites are male.   Us ladies are sadly represented in these arenas!
 
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Aug 7, 2010 at 1:21 AM Post #29 of 93
In terms of Monsters, it sounds to me that the Gold version may be a little more up your alley.
 
I do see the MTPG (haven't used the Copper myself) as a good all-around product but at the same time not a "wow, these are special" kind of product.  These seem to be products suited for people who want a well balanced package that kind of does everything well and not much wrong.
 
I agree that BAs can be hit and miss in various ways, but not all BAs are the same.  The right product will give you the sound signature you want.  There are just a lot of "wrong" products for your particular tastes in the mix of what's out there that you have to weed through.  Dynamics seem to be a little more "normal" for most people, expected signatures.
 
I'm not sure how satisfied you will be with the bass for a lot of products coming from the IE8.  The IE8 does low frequency pretty well, and you just don't quite get the same quality of presentation on the low end with most other products.  If you don't mind the midbass hump, the IE8 is a very nice product.  I haven't used the Coppers, so I can't compare directly.  I have used the Golds, and I do find the Gold's bass to be well presented and more controlled than I initially anticipated.  For the number of people calling the MTPG bass heavy, I was surprised by how tame the low end actually was, and it didn't really overwhelm the mids that stood out plenty well.  If you found the Coppers light, the Golds may be the better balance you're looking for.  I'm not sure how the mids and treble are on the Coppers, but the Golds are pretty smooth.  Maybe the Copper is edgier or emphasized somewhere.  The Golds are pretty tame.  Going back to the IE8, I too liked the mids and highs a lot, and the IE8 actually portrays the spectrum pretty well, only getting a little sluggish on the top end blurring some detail together.
 
If you want to piece together a few items to demo or buy, it sounds like you want to stick to the most balanced products. 
 
The RE252 is my favorite, and you already own this one.
 
I also consider the Klipsch Custom 3 as a really well balanced earphone.  Also it is a bit unusual in note for a BA, offering a thicker more textured note that is uncommon for a lot of BA drivers.  Plus the sound stage on the Custom 3 is among the best, excellent size and linearity.  If you want a BA but without the super clean BA kind of sound, this is one of the few that offer that.  You've used the Custom 1 and 2.  I haven't.  I know Joker reviewed all 3 and really did not like the 1 or 2 much at all.  The Custom 3 is a bit better though.  While Joker ranked the Custom 2 at 6.0 in sound quality, he ranked the Custom 3 at 9.25 which should be an indication of the size of step up from what you're familiar with for Klipsch's Custom line.  It's just a suggestion since you do prefer that thicker, more textured dynamic sound.
 
While I can agree with you in some ways about the highs with BAs, I'm not sure what you specifically like or don't like.  A lot of the single driver BA earphones simply lack extension or end up pretty ragged up top (ex. PFE).  Some BAs aren't very articulate, so you lack some of the thickness and texture, even up top, and you can get a sort of sparkly but not entirely meaningful high end.  I feel the CK10 is a good example of what a BA can offer on the top end, and you're familiar with that.  You've used the TF10, and I do very much like the TF10's highs too, although the sweet nature may or may not suit you.  The emphasis of both the TF10 and CK10 really do require EQing though, but a Comply T-500 tip can soak up some of it in a pinch and tame these earphones down a little bit.  The TF10 and CK10 are really the only two BAs I've used that I really, really like the high end, but I'm also a big EQ user and have a robust enough tool to do whatever I want and is needed to balance out a product.  The only other earphone that rivals these two is the RE252, and the RE252 doesn't need EQing.  These are the only 3 products I've used that offer endless treble and of a high quality.  Most other products roll off, become ragged, or end up sluggish or or limited in some way to really accurately portray the high end.  The IE8 is an example where the extension is there without rolling off way up at the top, but the bass geared driver simply can't keep up with the finer high frequency details.  Stepping to something like the RE252 reverses the spectrum offering that top end and midrange but sacrificing some low frequency.  I can't say I've used a dynamic that does the entire spectrum really, really well.  I find multi-driver BAs to do better, but I find additional EQing needs for some of these and in some cases coherence issues due to complexities of x-overs and blending (ex. UM3X).
 
Keep up your searching.  I know you've used some of the better products out there.  Maybe you need to step to some robust EQ to get one of your earphones to a state you seek.  I too still keep looking for the next thing that will outdo the last.  I've been fond of a number of products I've used and value several of them in various ways.  I'm sure you're like me still looking for that everything product.  Out of the slew of IEMs I've used, I felt the RE252 came the closest.  I still prefer my OK1 bud a little more though, but it's a product that needs a powerful amp and EQing to really shine.  The RE252 doesn't.  I've got a DBA-02 on the way, so I'll find out how that stacks up.  It'd be fun to at least demo a SM3 at some point.  Plus I'm still waiting on the Sleek SA7 which should kick some butt.  I'm a big fan of the SA6 which is a pretty killer single BA with an EQed low end.  There's always more and more new stuff on the horizon.
 
Aug 7, 2010 at 5:09 AM Post #30 of 93
maybe i would like the golds more but even if i did i dobt id ever wear them in public.  fair enough i could in august as with all the dirty hippies swarming over the city no one would bat an eyelid but the rest of year oh lord no. 
 
yeah im no fan of EQ, ideologically i dont like the idea but ive got an ipod so it rules it out for me anyway
 
oh and your very right about the 252, its qiite marvelous which why im so very looking forward to the 262.  i just cant see what they could do to make it better
 

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