Mac OS X Music Players - alternatives to iTunes
Apr 10, 2013 at 10:42 PM Post #1,816 of 3,495
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In your opinion littletree ...
I still use iTunes
try XLD for your #6 "metadata tagging"

XLD rocks, love that software.  I couldn't figure out how to convert 24/96 to 24/48 for my Rockboxed iPod XLD does the trick, in fact it converts virtually all the lossless audio into any bit rate you want, best of all its free.
 
Apr 10, 2013 at 11:23 PM Post #1,817 of 3,495
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XLD rocks, love that software.  I couldn't figure out how to convert 24/96 to 24/48 for my Rockboxed iPod XLD does the trick, in fact it converts virtually all the lossless audio into any bit rate you want, best of all its free.


You do know that the iPod's only output 16/44.1, the 24/48's will play but they are downsampled buy the iPod to 16/44.1 for playback.
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Apr 10, 2013 at 11:51 PM Post #1,818 of 3,495
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XLD rocks, love that software.  I couldn't figure out how to convert 24/96 to 24/48 for my Rockboxed iPod XLD does the trick, in fact it converts virtually all the lossless audio into any bit rate you want, best of all its free.


You do know that the iPod's only output 16/44.1, the 24/48's will play but they are downsampled buy the iPod to 16/44.1 for playback.
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Maybe not 24/48, but it looks like 16/48 is supported.
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The iPod will absolutely handle 48 kHz for sure.  I have my iPod connected to the Wadia i170 and then to an Assemblage jitter filter, and that shows the sample rate.  When I play 48 kHz files on the iPod, the 48 kHz light comes on on the Assemblage.
 
I'm not sure about the bit rate though.

 
Apr 11, 2013 at 12:45 AM Post #1,819 of 3,495
48Khz / 44.1Khz basically the same but it is still only 16Bit though. The 24Bit files are just taking up unnecessary space IMHO.
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Apr 11, 2013 at 1:56 AM Post #1,821 of 3,495
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Apr 11, 2013 at 2:21 AM Post #1,823 of 3,495
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XLD rocks, love that software.  I couldn't figure out how to convert 24/96 to 24/48 for my Rockboxed iPod XLD does the trick, in fact it converts virtually all the lossless audio into any bit rate you want, best of all its free.

how do u do that? Man i'm struggling with XLD to convert my flac 24 bit to 16bit. i'm totally confused with the settings.
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 6:39 AM Post #1,824 of 3,495
Rockbox on an ipod will play 24bit files at full resolution.  At least it does on mine.

There are many many threads on this out there... The DAC chip in ALL the iPods only supports 16 Bit output, so I am sorry to say that yours does not output 24 Bit audio... :wink:

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Apr 12, 2013 at 9:24 PM Post #1,825 of 3,495
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You do know that the iPod's only output 16/44.1, the 24/48's will play but they are downsampled buy the iPod to 16/44.1 for playback.
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Thanks for the post.  The Wolfson ADC on the iPod 5.5G is 24bit but the output for the DAC is limited to 16bit.  16/48 is the maximal output for the Rockbox iPod.  The TrollDragon knows audio.  The information on the net is very confusing on this matter.  After spending the better part of the last day researching this matter I'm convinced that Apple limited the output on this chip for a variety of reasons.
 
Apr 12, 2013 at 11:10 PM Post #1,826 of 3,495
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Thanks for the post.  The Wolfson ADC on the iPod 5.5G is 24bit but the output for the DAC is limited to 16bit.  16/48 is the maximal output for the Rockbox iPod.  The TrollDragon knows audio.  The information on the net is very confusing on this matter.  After spending the better part of the last day researching this matter I'm convinced that Apple limited the output on this chip for a variety of reasons.

You're welcome RUMAY408, I went down that road before I found out about the 16Bit output... It sure saves a lot of space on the old iPod's... Till I get my hands on a Classic at least, then the space will not matter, but it will still only be loaded up with 16Bit files.
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I didn't mean to send you on the great internet hunt for validation, I should have posted a few links.
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Apr 13, 2013 at 3:29 AM Post #1,827 of 3,495
Audirvana has memory leak issues... I installed the 1.4.6 version and it's buggy as hell....
 
I lowered the amount of memory reserved to 500MB but after an hour of playing it's using 11GB of RAM  ( Yes 11 ) 
 
Everytime I move to the next track the memory consumption increases by 25-40 MBs... 
 
Worst part of the story is that the software shows that it's using only 500MB Real Memory in Activity Monitor but the reality is that it's using much much more.....
 
And it's not over, when you quit the application it doesn't release the memory back !! It only frees 500MBs, I have to reboot my Mac or type "purge" in terminal to free up the inactive RAM 
 
Apr 13, 2013 at 3:42 AM Post #1,828 of 3,495
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Audirvana has memory leak issues... I installed the 1.4.6 version and it's buggy as hell....
 
I lowered the amount of memory reserved to 500MB but after an hour of playing it's using 11GB of RAM  ( Yes 11 ) 
 
Everytime I move to the next track the memory consumption increases by 25-40 MBs... 
 
Worst part of the story is that the software shows that it's using only 500MB Real Memory in Activity Monitor but the reality is that it's using much much more.....
 
And it's not over, when you quit the application it doesn't release the memory back !! It only frees 500MBs, I have to reboot my Mac or type "purge" in terminal to free up the inactive RAM 

That sounds like a serious issue. How big is your playlist? I'm using 1.4.6 on OS X 10.8.3 without any problems...

 

 
 
*Running on a Retina MacBook Pro with 8 GB RAM, 2.6 Core i7. 5120 MB allocated memory for tracks pre-load, integer mode on.
 
Apr 13, 2013 at 3:48 AM Post #1,829 of 3,495
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That sounds like a serious issue. How big is your playlist? I'm using 1.4.6 on OS X 10.8.3 without any problems...

 
My playlist is 93 track. As said, it doesn't show in Process management. You can see it in Inactive RAM.
 
IF you want to simulate the issue, load some 50-60 tracks in your playlist and watch the Inactive Memory increasing everytime you move to the next track.
 
Once Inactive RAM is very huge, OS will start using swap memory and lags like hell...
 
Apr 13, 2013 at 3:54 AM Post #1,830 of 3,495
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That sounds like a serious issue. How big is your playlist? I'm using 1.4.6 on OS X 10.8.3 without any problems...

 
My playlist is 93 track. As said, it doesn't show in Process management. You can see it in Inactive RAM.
 
IF you want to simulate the issue, load some 50-60 tracks in your playlist and watch the Inactive Memory increasing everytime you move to the next track.
 
Once Inactive RAM is very huge, OS will start using swap memory and lags like hell...

Yeah I just loaded all of my HDTracks music and see what you're saying.
 

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