[antoramp]

I've owned both the Asgard 2 and the Jot, and I much prefer the Lyr 3 (with stock Tung-Sol tube for now) to either, listening with Ether C Flows. Whatever slight increase in perceived background noise (not much that I can tell), the Lyr 3 produces a more coherent, spatially organized, fluid but very detailed rendering. I listen to lots of modern piano work (in jazz solo and ensemble, also modern classical) and my pet peeve is when mid-to-high frequencies, and especially overtones, sound grainy compared with what I experience in live performances by the same artists. So far, the Lyr 3 wins big in that department, and holds its own against the much more expensive solid-state Neurochrome HP-1, while providing a more intimate, small room experience than the more austere, big-room feeling of the HP-1. The Lyr 3 is maybe a tad slower on sharp transients from percussion, but it more than compensates with tight control and the most solid, 3D rendering of bass (jazz double bass, kick drum) of all of those amps.

You helped me a lot with these 3 posts! thank you very much!

 

[earnmyturns]

Many thanks I'm now ready for a headphone amplifier so in the following days I'll order the Lyr 3... In the ( not so ) near ( neither non so far ) future I'm planning to buy a new DAC ( Maybe the Gungnir Multibit ) and then a planar headphone ( maybe the LCD-2 )

On the DAC front, I'd look carefully at the Soekris discrete R2R DACs, especially dac1321. I love my Schiit Yggdrasil and I've had a good experience with the Bifrost multibit, but the Soekris DACs are hitting a really sweet spot. I own a dac1541, which includes an amp (I needed that for that particular setup), but the discussions of the dac1321 I've read suggest that it does extremely well for the price (490 Eur) and it is not a huge step down from the TOTL dac1541.

 

[antoramp]

On the DAC front, I'd look carefully at the Soekris discrete R2R DACs, especially dac1321. I love my Schiit Yggdrasil and I've had a good experience with the Bifrost multibit, but the Soekris DACs are hitting a really sweet spot. I own a dac1541, which includes an amp (I needed that for that particular setup), but the discussions of the dac1321 I've read suggest that it does extremely well for the price (490 Eur) and it is not a huge step down from the TOTL dac1541.

Ok I'll consider your suggestions when I'll be ready for the new DAC. Really Thanks

 

[earnmyturns]

Yggy (a2) > Saga > Vidar.

Whoa, that's the definition of overkill

 

[Wildcatsare1]

Can’t remember who recommended the Foton Tubes, to lazy to do the search, but good call. Just preliminary thoughts, they just arrived from Ukraine and early listening on a 1962, T Plates, 2 hole is very nice. Not what I expected after the Stock Tubes, very pleasantly surprised, thank you.

 

[earnmyturns]

Can’t remember who recommended the Foton Tubes, to lazy to do the search, but good call. Just preliminary thoughts, they just arrived from Ukraine and early listening on a 1962, T Plates, 2 hole is very nice. Not what I expected after the Stock Tubes, very pleasantly surprised, thank you.

Those things are way cheaper than other 6N7S NOS options out there. What's up with that?

 

[Wildcatsare1]

Those things are way cheaper than other 6N7S NOS options out there. What's up with that?

I think part of it is the old, “supply and demand” they are worthless in Ukraine, available in large quantities, and few users.


I’m sending one back with my Wife and Daughter when they visit Family this summer so they can bring a bunch home!

 

[Zachik]

Can’t remember who recommended the Foton Tubes, to lazy to do the search, but good call. Just preliminary thoughts, they just arrived from Ukraine and early listening on a 1962, T Plates, 2 hole is very nice. Not what I expected after the Stock Tubes, very pleasantly surprised, thank you.

Please elaborate
Surprising (good) bass / mids / highs / sound stage / smoothness / detail?

 

[Wildcatsare1]

Please elaborate
Surprising (good) bass / mids / highs / sound stage / smoothness / detail?

Sorry, it’s to early to go into great detail, but the tone and soundstage are very good. Haven’t done a head to head with the Sylvania or Ken Rads, but I’m not noticing anything missing in bass or soundstage, and detail is quite good.

 

[ProfFalkin]

RCA, silver lettering, short bottle, side getter, staggered flat black plates 6SN7GTA = sounds like my Sylvania chrome dome, and 1/2 the price. Nice sound. Not peaky, rolled off or offensive in any way. Pretty safe selection if you don't know where to start rolling.




(I like pictures. Easier to identify exactly what is being talked about.)

 

[JamesCanada]

So I understand the fun of having a Tube amp is trying different combos and tubes. That being said, I have a simple question: How good are the stock tubes? bare bones stock....

 

[chef8489]

Those things are way cheaper than other 6N7S NOS options out there. What's up with that?

They were made in quantity for the Military for the most part during the USSR period. With its collapse and advancement in technology there is a huge stockpile of tubes as we no longer use tubes in military equipment.

 

[ProfFalkin]

So I understand the fun of having a Tube amp is trying different combos and tubes. That being said, I have a simple question: How good are the stock tubes? bare bones stock....

They are pretty good actually. There were several posts on it earlier in the thread. Search is your friend, but here are a few to start you off.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/lyr...iscussion-thread.875185/page-36#post-14177993

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/lyr...iscussion-thread.875185/page-23#post-14161468

 

[JamesCanada]

They are pretty good actually. There were several posts on it earlier in the thread. Search is your friend, but here are a few to start you off.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/lyr...iscussion-thread.875185/page-36#post-14177993

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/lyr...iscussion-thread.875185/page-23#post-14161468

Sorry about that, I need to get the hang of these forums...


So,
Has anyone had any regrets or feel like the Lyr 3 is not up to the standards of what they expected ??
Has anyone felt like Lyr is not a good value for $ ?

 

[ProfFalkin]

My only regret is paying the extra for the MB card when I use and prefer the external Modi MB DAC instead.