Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!

Aug 31, 2022 at 7:01 PM Post #7,771 of 9,541
Please help me decide to buy one of these cable which have very good discount.
Which one will improve overall sound quality (if they improve any)? The purpleSE cable improves TRI-Frequency which I believe improves all low, mids and highs.
And what is so special about Furukawa copper?
I recently sold my T3 Plus and don't have any IEM right now but I'll go for Olina special edition when it will be available or maybe something else.
Thanks
NiceHCK OrangeSir

NiceHCK PurpleSE

I have two of the PurpleSE cables. I don't believe in "magic" cables but these certainly sound fine on my AQ4 and Starsea. The only downside is that they aren't very soft and with the rigid earhooks aren't as comfortable as my XINHS 8 cores. Strangely enough I find the NiceHCK 16 core cables with no preformed earhooks, the most comfortable cables I own. The OrangeSir does look tempting.

If you want Olina for the wide stage and pinpoint imaging, then consider a planar. New releases are coming out with much better tuning over the last year or so. Prices have also become much more affordable too, with older models also being discounted to compete against newer releases. In a month there will be feedback on the latest batch of new releases which start at $49! The CCA PLA13 has just released at $65 and has similar tuning to the T3 Plus (although worse build quality).
 
Aug 31, 2022 at 7:06 PM Post #7,772 of 9,541
I find the NiceHCK 16 core cables with no preformed earhooks, the most comfortable cables I own. The OrangeSir does look tempting.

I have one of the NiceHCK 16 core high purity copper cables with no ear hooks and I absolutely agree. It drapes well, isn’t at all microphonic and feels really good on my ears. I keep intending to buy one or two more.
 
Aug 31, 2022 at 7:18 PM Post #7,773 of 9,541
I have one of the NiceHCK 16 core high purity copper cables with no ear hooks and I absolutely agree. It drapes well, isn’t at all microphonic and feels really good on my ears. I keep intending to buy one or two more.
I bought one of their 24 cores to try in the recent sale, so I'm waiting for that to arrive. They were under $15 on sale, but went pretty quickly.
 
Aug 31, 2022 at 9:44 PM Post #7,774 of 9,541
I have two of the PurpleSE cables. I don't believe in "magic" cables but these certainly sound fine on my AQ4 and Starsea. The only downside is that they aren't very soft and with the rigid earhooks aren't as comfortable as my XINHS 8 cores. Strangely enough I find the NiceHCK 16 core cables with no preformed earhooks, the most comfortable cables I own. The OrangeSir does look tempting.

If you want Olina for the wide stage and pinpoint imaging, then consider a planar. New releases are coming out with much better tuning over the last year or so. Prices have also become much more affordable too, with older models also being discounted to compete against newer releases. In a month there will be feedback on the latest batch of new releases which start at $49! The CCA PLA13 has just released at $65 and has similar tuning to the T3 Plus (although worse build quality).
What cables, tips and sources are you using with the Olina? I just can't get this imaging thing working. Have you done any mod? I have tried more than a dozen tips and cables and a few sources but with no luck. Also done the front vent hole mod but undone it after a few days.
 
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Aug 31, 2022 at 10:09 PM Post #7,775 of 9,541
What cables, tips and sources are you using with the Olina? I just can't get this imaging thing working. Have you done any mod?
I've used the original and a Tripowin Zonie cables (3.5mm SE SPC). KBEAR 07 tips. Off phone, both direct and through BTR3K, from local FLAC files or Tidal streaming. Also off Hiby R2 or A&K SR25. I did the Shortbus mod with an extra filter over the existing on the nozzle. That tamed the upper mid and treble peaks but didn't seem to affect the stage or imaging. The wide stage and precise imaging have always been outstanding. I find they even give planars a run for their money, as long as the track doesn't get too busy.
 
Aug 31, 2022 at 11:20 PM Post #7,776 of 9,541
I've used the original and a Tripowin Zonie cables (3.5mm SE SPC). KBEAR 07 tips. Off phone, both direct and through BTR3K, from local FLAC files or Tidal streaming. Also off Hiby R2 or A&K SR25. I did the Shortbus mod with an extra filter over the existing on the nozzle. That tamed the upper mid and treble peaks but didn't seem to affect the stage or imaging. The wide stage and precise imaging have always been outstanding. I find they even give planars a run for their money, as long as the track doesn't get too busy.
The Olina always sounds like it needs to be modded to sound decent (balanced) enough IMO. The upper mid and treble does bother like it's not balanced with the bass. The vent mod didn't work for me and I think I should try the nozzle mod then.
 
Sep 1, 2022 at 2:13 AM Post #7,777 of 9,541
I have two of the PurpleSE cables. I don't believe in "magic" cables but these certainly sound fine on my AQ4 and Starsea. The only downside is that they aren't very soft and with the rigid earhooks aren't as comfortable as my XINHS 8 cores. Strangely enough I find the NiceHCK 16 core cables with no preformed earhooks, the most comfortable cables I own. The OrangeSir does look tempting.

If you want Olina for the wide stage and pinpoint imaging, then consider a planar. New releases are coming out with much better tuning over the last year or so. Prices have also become much more affordable too, with older models also being discounted to compete against newer releases. In a month there will be feedback on the latest batch of new releases which start at $49! The CCA PLA13 has just released at $65 and has similar tuning to the T3 Plus (although worse build quality).
Thanks for reply, yeah PurpleSE looks rigid, it only look beautiful because of purple color. OrangeSir looks little bit soft from customers' images.
I was talking about Olina Special Edition that gonna release soon with better tuning and filter issues.
I think I'll go for OrangeSir as it is still little bit cheaper and new. Due to very low value of our currency against $$$, every $ have a value for me.
I had KZ gold/silver/copper 8 core cable before and I sold it because earhooks were very thick and very uncomfortable and painful after few minutes, if the earhooks of both PurpleSE and OrangeSir are the same then I'll definitely avoid both of these cables.
 
Sep 1, 2022 at 7:58 AM Post #7,778 of 9,541
Thanks for reply, yeah PurpleSE looks rigid, it only look beautiful because of purple color. OrangeSir looks little bit soft from customers' images.
I was talking about Olina Special Edition that gonna release soon with better tuning and filter issues.
I think I'll go for OrangeSir as it is still little bit cheaper and new. Due to very low value of our currency against $$$, every $ have a value for me.
I had KZ gold/silver/copper 8 core cable before and I sold it because earhooks were very thick and very uncomfortable and painful after few minutes, if the earhooks of both PurpleSE and OrangeSir are the same then I'll definitely avoid both of these cables.
If you want a comfortable cheap cable then the QKZ T1 8 core isn't bad They work out under $7 and free postage. Certainly better than the cheap 4 cores that come with TRN, KZ etc.:L3000:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003569375035.html
 
Sep 2, 2022 at 5:54 AM Post #7,779 of 9,541
Does anyone have a recommendation for decent lightweight cables? The ones I got with my Penon PAC earbuds are great but the weight of them pulls on my ears after a while.
 
Sep 3, 2022 at 12:10 PM Post #7,781 of 9,541
Been reading up on the reviews of Nicehck cable in this thread after seeing the deal that was posted earlier since I have been looking for a good cable without ear hooks.

If someone can help me with a few questions I have, I would be grateful.

1. Is there a difference between the Nichhck 16 core high purity copper cable and the Nicehck C16-3 cable? Is the quality better? I notice that the adapter on C16-3 seems a bit nicer, but is there anything else that I might have missed? I wonder if there is a justification for the price difference at the current sale price ($14 vs $19).
2. Does anyone know how the Nicehck cables compare to Tripowin Zonie? I own a 3.5mm 2 pin Zonie, but find that the cable's braiding to be sub-par since I notice the same issue as the review mentions here, although it is not bad yet as it is in the photos.
3. How much do they weigh?

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
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Sep 3, 2022 at 9:14 PM Post #7,782 of 9,541
Been reading up on the reviews of Nicehck cable in this thread after seeing the deal that was posted earlier since I have been looking for a good cable without ear hooks.

If someone can help me with a few questions I have, I would be grateful.

1. Is there a difference between the Nichhck 16 core high purity copper cable and the Nicehck C16-3 cable? Is the quality better? I notice that the adapter on C16-3 seems a bit nicer, but is there anything else that I might have missed? I wonder if there is a justification for the price difference at the current sale price ($14 vs $19).
2. Does anyone know how the Nicehck cables compare to Tripowin Zonie? I own a 3.5mm 2 pin Zonie, but find that the cable's braiding to be sub-par since I notice the same issue as the review mentions here, although it is not bad yet as it is in the photos.
3. How much do they weigh?

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Have both the Nichhck 16 core high purity copper cable and the Nicehck C16-3.
Can't comment on the sound quality but as far as build quality, braiding is very similar.
I've only had them a couple of months and they both look as good as new.
I'm equally happy with both.

Just weighed the cables on my cheap digital kitchen scale and the darker cable weighs 22g, the C16-3 29g.
The difference might simply be down to the connectors, the darker one seems to have lighter painted/anodised? aluminium connectors and the C16-3 have some sort of heavier chromed metal.

I'm quite a noob with these type of earphones/cables but I hope this is of some use.
 
Sep 3, 2022 at 9:26 PM Post #7,783 of 9,541
Been reading up on the reviews of Nicehck cable in this thread after seeing the deal that was posted earlier since I have been looking for a good cable without ear hooks.

If someone can help me with a few questions I have, I would be grateful.

1. Is there a difference between the Nichhck 16 core high purity copper cable and the Nicehck C16-3 cable? Is the quality better? I notice that the adapter on C16-3 seems a bit nicer, but is there anything else that I might have missed? I wonder if there is a justification for the price difference at the current sale price ($14 vs $19).
2. Does anyone know how the Nicehck cables compare to Tripowin Zonie? I own a 3.5mm 2 pin Zonie, but find that the cable's braiding to be sub-par since I notice the same issue as the review mentions here, although it is not bad yet as it is in the photos.
3. How much do they weigh?

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

The C16-3 has Litz structure. So each strand within the core is individually insulated, which affects the cables electrical properties.

The C16-3 has no preformed earhooks is similarly soft to the Zonie.
It's currently reduced at: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001483466249.html I haven't used the store myself, but it's been around for 3 years and has decent ratings. The cable is usually that price at one of the NiceHCK stores during sales.

I have two Tripowin Zonie cables and have never had any problems. I would never read too much into one bad review. We don't know how well the cable was cared for. As the core count increases, each core is finer, so a little more care is needed in handling it. The payoff is increased comfort. Don't force chin sliders, that's an easy way to wreck cables. Forcing zips on IEM cases can damage cables if it turns out it was the cable it was jammed on. If you want robust go for lower core count cables with thicker cores. Right angled jacks are safer for mobile use, as they give better strain relief than a straight plug. Super Review did a YouTube video on cable wrapping which I found useful.

 
Sep 3, 2022 at 10:39 PM Post #7,784 of 9,541
Have both the Nichhck 16 core high purity copper cable and the Nicehck C16-3.
Can't comment on the sound quality but as far as build quality, braiding is very similar.
I've only had them a couple of months and they both look as good as new.
I'm equally happy with both.

Just weighed the cables on my cheap digital kitchen scale and the darker cable weighs 22g, the C16-3 29g.
The difference might simply be down to the connectors, the darker one seems to have lighter painted/anodised? aluminium connectors and the C16-3 have some sort of heavier chromed metal.

I'm quite a noob with these type of earphones/cables but I hope this is of some use.
Thank you. Sounds like the cable might be the same but the quality of connectors is a bit more sturdy with the C16-3, which does make sense. Is the braiding tight-knit?

The C16-3 has Litz structure. So each strand within the core is individually insulated, which affects the cables electrical properties.

The C16-3 has no preformed earhooks is similarly soft to the Zonie.
It's currently reduced at: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001483466249.html I haven't used the store myself, but it's been around for 3 years and has decent ratings. The cable is usually that price at one of the NiceHCK stores during sales.

I have two Tripowin Zonie cables and have never had any problems. I would never read too much into one bad review. We don't know how well the cable was cared for. As the core count increases, each core is finer, so a little more care is needed in handling it. The payoff is increased comfort. Don't force chin sliders, that's an easy way to wreck cables. Forcing zips on IEM cases can damage cables if it turns out it was the cable it was jammed on. If you want robust go for lower core count cables with thicker cores. Right angled jacks are safer for mobile use, as they give better strain relief than a straight plug. Super Review did a YouTube video on cable wrapping which I found useful.


Thanks for the reply.
The reason I linked that review is that I see similar issues where the cable connects to the connector. This is most likely because of user error: I do use it with a mobile phone sometimes and have not really taken good care of it (have not wrapped it when putting it back at all times) since I have not used 16 core cables before. The only reason I bought the Zonie was for its low weight (about 22 g). The problem with robust, low count cable is that they tend to be heavier. I have the Thieaudio's modular cable which is quite substantial, but it is heavy (50 g).
 
Sep 4, 2022 at 12:11 AM Post #7,785 of 9,541
Thanks for the reply.
The reason I linked that review is that I see similar issues where the cable connects to the connector. This is most because of user error: I do use it with a mobile phone sometimes and have not really taken good care of it (have not wrapped it when putting it back at all times) since I have not used 16 core cables before. The only reason I bought the Zonie was for its low weight (about 22 g). The problem with robust, low count cable is that they tend to be heavier. I have the Thieaudio's modular cable which is quite substantial, but it is heavy (50 g).
The braiding is pretty tight on the C16-3 but they still have a little play in them. If it was too tight, you'd lose the softness and flexibility. The weight in the cable actually helps keep them in place as there are no earhooks. The plug and splitter are heavy chrome plated affairs. If weight is important, you might be better with alloy or carbon fiber fittings.
 

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