[seanwee]

New KB EAR Wide 8 core with graphene. A bit out of the spontaneous buy range but looks pretty

US $116.62 51%OFF | KBEAR Wide 8 core Graphene single crystal copper plated with silver Cable with MMCX/2PIN Connector Use For BLON BL03 KBEAR KB04
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKtj9mH

So is it graphene or silver plated? Never know with all the fake "graphene" cables in the market nowadays.

Though to be fair no cable uses actual graphene, just graphite sheets.

 

[paulwasabii]

So is it graphene or silver plated? Never know with all the fake "graphene" cables in the market nowadays.

Though to be fair no cable uses actual graphene, just graphite sheets.

If I am reading it right, both. Mixed braid of SPC and graphene on copper strands.

 

[Bosk]

I'd love to hear opinions on the graphene material from those who own graphene cables. I've yet to see a high-end cable manufacturer come out with a graphene cable so am a little bit skeptical, wondering if it is largely a marketing buzzword or if there's tangible sonic benefit to the material. Willing to keep an open mind about it though.

 

[CopperFox]

Can someone point me to a shop that sells something like the Faaeal 4 core copper litz cable but with 3.5mm TRRS balanced termination? Need that for iFi Pro iCan amp.

 

[seanwee]

I'd love to hear opinions on the graphene material from those who own graphene cables. I've yet to see a high-end cable manufacturer come out with a graphene cable so am a little bit skeptical, wondering if it is largely a marketing buzzword or if there's tangible sonic benefit to the material. Willing to keep an open mind about it though.

I'd say it's the same situation as titanium diaphrams and titanium coated diaphragms used in iems/headphones/speakers.

Very different things marketed to seem the same as a titanium diaphragm will have vastly different characteristics vs a regular pet diaphragm coated with titanium powder.

And with the conducting properties of graphene, don't you think people will be using it as the conductor itself rather than as shielding?

Even in the most expensive "graphene" cables, I bet its just coated with graphene flakes. And in cheaper cables, it's most likely just graphite powder.

 

[courierdriver]

New KB EAR Wide 8 core with graphene. A bit out of the spontaneous buy range but looks pretty

US $116.62 51%OFF | KBEAR Wide 8 core Graphene single crystal copper plated with silver Cable with MMCX/2PIN Connector Use For BLON BL03 KBEAR KB04
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKtj9mH

Nice...but a bit too rich for me, pricewise. When the price of a cable costs double or more than the iem it's connected to...I just can't justify it. Not going to buy this one. I'm sure it's probably really good; but I don't think it will do much for an iem half it's price.

 

[paulwasabii]

Nice...but a bit too rich for me, pricewise. When the price of a cable costs double or more than the iem it's connected to...I just can't justify it. Not going to buy this one. I'm sure it's probably really good; but I don't think it will do much for an iem half it's price.

iIRC Nicehck Darkjade had a large discount at launch. Maybe we will see a better discount on the graphenes during the next large sale. I am with you, too expensive at these prices

 

[PhonoPhi]

I'd love to hear opinions on the graphene material from those who own graphene cables. I've yet to see a high-end cable manufacturer come out with a graphene cable so am a little bit skeptical, wondering if it is largely a marketing buzzword or if there's tangible sonic benefit to the material. Willing to keep an open mind about it though.

Graphene cables are as pure "snake oil", as it can be (next to palladium and other alloys).

Surely, the profit margins should be great after sprinkling the surface of the cables with graphite flakes or graphene fragments that do absolutely nothing. The latter is safe to claim, since by definition, graphene is a single layer (!), its conductance won't be any significant.

I did try to ask main sellers about exact benefits, resistance values - no any substance answers (just " it is a great novel cable, friend"), so to me the graphene cables became a litmus paper of taking an advantage of gullible audiophiles.

Caveat emperor, of course, but the heard mentality is mighty strong in this hobby to be appreciably damaging...

 

[LordZero]

Has anyone tried this Nicehck BlackWheat 8 core cable with mic? Aliexpress link

Decent cables with a mic are so hard to find, but this one seems to tick all my boxes: mic, ear hooks, variety of connectors, good thickness, decent colour (though would prefer less shiny).

Have you tried it? I want a cable with mic too, i was wondering if i should buy this:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNVLP1T

Or


https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOIj2Kt

 

[scratchmassive]

Have you tried it? I want a cable with mic too, i was wondering if i should buy this:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNVLP1T

Or


https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOIj2Kt

I have ordered the Nicehck Blackwheat and that KBEAR one too. I'll post here when I get them.

I've found a few others but the cables look to be a bit on the thin and tangly side:

Moondrop MKI
https://a.aliexpress.com/_msI6N4v

Upgrade Cable For Weston 1964
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKibW2v

 

[Fabulo]

Have you tried it? I want a cable with mic too, i was wondering if i should buy this:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNVLP1T

Or


https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOIj2Kt

I have the TRN... The cable works but the microphone (tested on iPhone, PC and PS4) is pure garbage.

 

[scratchmassive]

I have the TRN... The cable works but the microphone (tested on iPhone, PC and PS4) is pure garbage.

Which reminds me. I have 2 of the Tripowin C8 with mic cables that I bought from Linsoul, but I was disappointed to find the mic is useless. Both barely able to pick up sound, on my MacBook and iPhone. Pity because otherwise the cable is nice.

 

[allaces305]

I'm waiting on the KBEAR Limpid Pro and the Moondrop Blessing 2 Dusk to arrive in about 2 weeks... I'll let you guys know how it pairs up and then hopefully I'll be able to upload some pictures of the combination.

 

[paulwasabii]

Interesting. My limpid is 0.46, but it looks like the pro is at least lower measuring.

Are the individual cores on the pro as thick as the ones on limpid?

So I bought a new, better multimeter and took a look at the KBEAR Limpid vs Pro again. Internal resistance hovered around 0.1 for me so that puts my Limpid in line with your measurement. But puts the Limpid Pro down around 0.27. I don't know if it means anything but in theory, it is the same material, just 80 strands instead of 40.

 

[RikudouGoku]

So I bought a new, better multimeter and took a look at the KBEAR Limpid vs Pro again. Internal resistance hovered around 0.1 for me so that puts my Limpid in line with your measurement. But puts the Limpid Pro down around 0.27. I don't know if it means anything but in theory, it is the same material, just 80 strands instead of 40.

Pretty sure that using the same cable but with more cores, should lower the impedance.

And I do believe our measurements are pretty much identical lol. Good to have a standard I guess, but my measurements arent accurate either.