Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!
Aug 3, 2020 at 10:58 PM Post #4,606 of 9,220
I had to order one of these in 8 cores. It looks like a beast of a cable.

Haven't seen this store before has anyone got anything and recommend them?

ï¿¡67.96 10%OFF | Cotton net shield Litz 8N single crystal copper upgrade line 2.5 / 3.5 / 4.4 interface
https://a.aliexpress.com/_BUydAp
🤤 Next-gen TOTL cable
 
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Aug 4, 2020 at 7:49 AM Post #4,607 of 9,220
Has anyone got this cable from Xiaofan, if so kindly give your impressions please.

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Aug 4, 2020 at 10:58 AM Post #4,609 of 9,220
I have recently bought their cable from taobao during a sale just to check their quality. after the sale, the price got even cheaper. currently waiting for the item to arrive. the price drop already gave me a bad impression of them.
I can understand your position. Please do let us know how you find the cables irrespective of the mercurial behaviour of the seller.
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 12:59 PM Post #4,610 of 9,220
So just received the FAAEAL Hibiscus cable. £11.00 for a copper Litz cable. So I got it to use on my iBasso it00, but huff and puff, try as I may, the screw**g iBasso cable will/would not come off. So......I gave up, and put it on my Semkarch CNT1. Wow the Semkarch is bassy, now a bass monster and I like it. Through the 4.4mm balanced of the Hiby R5 this cable does it's job.....and more. Listening to a folder of Pink Floyd and the track 'Money' sounds a million dollars. Sorry I've arrived late for the party.
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 2:35 PM Post #4,611 of 9,220
So just received the FAAEAL Hibiscus cable. £11.00 for a copper Litz cable. So I got it to use on my iBasso it00, but huff and puff, try as I may, the screw**g iBasso cable will/would not come off. So......I gave up, and put it on my Semkarch CNT1. Wow the Semkarch is bassy, now a bass monster and I like it. Through the 4.4mm balanced of the Hiby R5 this cable does it's job.....and more. Listening to a folder of Pink Floyd and the track 'Money' sounds a million dollars. Sorry I've arrived late for the party.

I remember that about my IT01. The ibasso mmcx are insanely stubborn to remove.

When you finally remove it, it feels like you just removed Excalibur from the stone haha
 
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Aug 4, 2020 at 2:37 PM Post #4,612 of 9,220
Here are my measurements on some cables:
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Aug 4, 2020 at 2:54 PM Post #4,613 of 9,220
I remember that about my IT01. The ibasso mmcx are insanely stubborn to remove.

When you finally remove it, it feels like you just removed Excalibur from the stone haha
Only one worthy shall remove the cable.
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 3:37 PM Post #4,614 of 9,220
Where did you all order the NiceHCK versions of that KBEAR cable from? Or did you order the KBEAR? What delivery did you use to get them so quickly? I'm in the US.:)

What was the shipping method used to get through to you so quickly?

Darn, that listing says the same for me, "Can not deliver to United States"

For now it looks like I'll continue ordering from Hifigo :)
https://hifigo.com/products/kbear-4-core-4n-99-99-purity-silver-earphone-cable-with-2pin-qdc-mmc-tfz
https://hifigo.com/products/kb-ear-16-core-silver-earphone-iem-cable-with-metal-2pin-mmcx-qdc
https://hifigo.com/products/kb-ear-16-core-pure-ccopper-cable-with-metal-2pin-mmcx-qdc-connector
https://hifigo.com/products/kbear-8-core-single-crystal-copper-upocc-cable-with-2pin-mmcx-qdc-tfz



That's awesome, I've been looking for upgrades to my NewFantasia "plain" cables. They offer upgraded balanced cables and even have a PTFE silver plated copper option for B&W cables, but I've not seen listings for other SE headphones.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=NewFantasia+PTFE+Silver+Plated+Copper&i=electronics&ref=nb_sb_noss

If you have current links for those specific cables that worked for you to post that would be very helpful. Searching by seller name then guessing at the product name - or reading through all their listings - takes a lot longer than just clicking a link for a completed ebay product listing. :)
Anyone know if it's possible to have a "balanced" cable connected to a Sennheiser 598cs? [answered below] I thought not, unless I rewire it internally, so what's this? Do I need to also rewire internally to use it? The description suggests all I need is this cable...I'm thinking of ordering the 4.4mm termination version.

1.2M OCC Balance Headphone cable cord Silver For Sennheiser HD598se 599 momentum
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2M-OCC-B...-Sennheiser-HD598se-599-momentum/312322198166

And, a more reasonably priced version:

2.5mm Trrs Balanced Male for Sennheiser HD598 HD558 HD518, HD598 Cs HD599 HD579
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-5mm-Trrs...HD558-HD518-HD598-Cs-HD599-HD579/253454913037

That's interesting, I also found a NewFantasia "balanced" 2.5mm cable for HD598cs:

NewFantasia HiFi Cable with 2.5mm Trrs Balanced Male for Sennheiser HD598 / HD558 / HD518 / HD598 Cs / HD599 / HD569 / HD579 Headphones and for Astell&Kern AK240 AK380 AK320 onkyo DP-X1 FIIO
https://www.amazon.com/NewFantasia-Balanced-Sennheiser-Headphone-XDP-300R/dp/B075C9HXW5

It's listed as a "silver" cable, but not much info on composition of the wire...

Question:
Some confusion here: is input jack for hd569 a real balanced input? or is it necessary reconect internal wires? will it work with cowon pr dap?
Answer:
The HD598 has a real balanced input. I confirmed this with Sennheiser before I bought the cable. I would guess the 569 is the same, but you can email Sennheiser you want to be sure. It does improve the sound considerably with my Onkyo dap.
By Blue Summers on November 3, 2018

Newfantasia has a bunch of 2.5mm balanced "silver" cables, some for my headphone needs - a nice bump up from the "plain" low cost cables I am using. Plenty of 4.4mm balanced too, but none for my headphones, which is what I am looking to get:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=NewFantasia+HiFi+Cable+with+2.5mm+Trrs+Balanced
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=NewFantasia+HiFi+Cable+with+4.4mm+Balanced
It took a chance on the Sukira 4.4mm balanced cable for my Sennheiser 598cs, and I'm glad I did. :)

The cable is inexpensive, looks good, and it works as expected. It's not a soft weave, the cable wire awg is generously thick so the cable is stiff and the clear jacket on each wire is tough.

It's not a soft weave many wire cable like the KB EAR 16 core IEM cables I like, but for an over the ear headphone it's different but as nice in feel and use as the NewFantasia 3.5mm cable I was using.

The best part of the cable is being able to move from the Topping A90 SE output to the Topping A90 balanced 4.4mm output. There's a lot more power out on the 4.4mm output.

I'm getting used to the sound. The 598cs even more sensitive with the new cable, there is more detail and soundstage. There are not only more high's, but across the range there is more material coming through. The bass is tight and fast. I'm hearing a much better stage presentation than with the NewPhantasia 3.5mm SE cable.

The one thing to watch out for is on my sample the barrel of the 2.5mm connector that goes into the 598cs slips and turns on the slippery cable, so when inserting the connector into the 598cs be sure the "notch" orientation in the plastic ring is aligned in place in front of the connector barrel - I used a flashlight to make sure I hit the notch while holding the barrel and the cable stiff to be able to turn / twist the connector securely into the socket. It's easy in and locked.

Sukira HiFi Audio Cable with 4.4MM Balanced Male for Sennheiser HD598 / HD558 / HD518 / HD598 Cs / HD599 / HD569 / HD579 Headphone and Sony WM1A, NW-WM1Z, PHA-2A
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0772SQ413

Here is the 3.5mm SE cable replaced:

NewFantasia Replacement Audio Upgrade Cable for Sennheiser HD598 / HD558 / HD518 / HD598 Cs / HD599 / HD569 / HD579 Headphones 1.5meters /4.9 feet
https://www.amazon.com/NewFantasia-Replacement-Upgrade-Sennheiser-Headphones/dp/B00KAKGQCQ

A worthwhile upgrade if you have a 4.4mm balanced output available with more power output than your 3.5mm SE output.

Later I'll try a 2.5mm cable for mobile use with the BTR5 / BTR3k:

NewFantasia HiFi Cable with 2.5mm Trrs Balanced Male for Sennheiser HD598 / HD558 / HD518 / HD598 Cs / HD599 / HD569 / HD579 Headphones and for Astell&Kern AK240 AK380 AK320 onkyo DP-X1 FIIO
https://www.amazon.com/NewFantasia-Balanced-Sennheiser-Headphone-XDP-300R/dp/B075C9HXW5

Maybe I'll like it better for use on the A90 with this adapter, and keep that 2.5mm cable on the 598cs all the time, I use this adapter for 2.5mm on the D90:

[ 4.4mm Male ] 4.4mm Male to 2.5mm Female 8 Core Silver Plated Headphone Earphone Audio Adapter Cable New in Box 4.4mm Balanced 5 Pole to 2.5mm Balanced [ 2.5mm Female ]
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0828KQN4X

To connect to my BTR5's 2.5mm ouput right now I am using this (heavy) 4.4mm to 2.5mm SendyAudio adapter I got for the Aiva's (comes wired for 4.4mm):

SendyAudio Asura Pigtail Adaptor (7N-OCC) 2.5mmBAL male to 4.4mmBAL female
https://shop.musicteck.com/collecti...2-5-male-to-4-4-female?variant=19155009765438

The BTR5 2.5mm higher power output to the 598cs sounds great, and I'll look for a lighter 4.4mm to 2.5mm adapter to use mobile with the BTR5:
 
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Aug 4, 2020 at 5:25 PM Post #4,615 of 9,220
Aug 4, 2020 at 10:25 PM Post #4,617 of 9,220
Especially the "rhyme" cable, as it looks damn similar to the Tripowin C8
Do let us know how that rhyme cable is as I am also interested in those!
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 11:06 PM Post #4,618 of 9,220
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So these cables are the Penon CS819, RP of $50. 4 cores of OCC copper and another 4 of SPC OCC mixed. Mostly copper but a nice intro level cable from Penon. These are very comparable to Ibassos CB12 cables which cost $100. These don't add much in the way of flavoring which can actually be a good thing if your really digging on your nice sounding IEMS and don't want to change up the sonics much. It does add some fullness to the sonics with a slight enhancement of stage and depth. The smidge of silver in the cable help retain all the stock detail of your earphones. Bass remains full bodied and punchy. Great intro level cables from Penon. You can read more on my take on them here. https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/penon-cs819.23177/reviews#item-review-24083
 
Aug 5, 2020 at 11:47 AM Post #4,619 of 9,220
How high/low is bad/good resistance in cables? Like maybe under 0,5ohm is good and over 1ohm is bad?
 
Aug 5, 2020 at 12:31 PM Post #4,620 of 9,220
How high/low is bad/good resistance in cables? Like maybe under 0,5ohm is good and over 1ohm is bad?

Not necessarily. Some gear actually uses higher resistance cables from the factory as part of their default tuning. It depends on a particular driver’s impedance curve. There’s no 1 right answer.
 
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