If you find it second hand at a better price then go for it and thank me later .
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Lotoo PAW S1 - Designed for HIFI on the go with Lotoo PAW quality and the first USB DAC-AMP with dual 3.5mm & 4.4mm output
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Any gains are marginal. If you have a dfc and are happy, the W2 is probably an extravagance.However Dragonfly Cobalt is still the most beautiful sound I have tried, at least under € 500. I also prefer it to Chord Mojo.
I hardly believe that W2 or S1 can somehow beat him. At least in my preferences.
jsmiller58
Headphoneus Supremus
I have many dongles, and while I don’t have the DFC, I can see where you are coming from. Other than small differences that only show up in critical listening, we get to a point where the differences are more about user interfaces (volume buttons, LCD displays, filters), power output (especially for over ear cans), formats supported, and physical build.Any gains are marginal. If you have a dfc and are happy, the W2 is probably an extravagance.
Those differences can and do add up to overall user experience differences - I really enjoy using the S1 and W2 more than the S8, S9, 9038s gen3, Helm Bolt, miniDSP il-DSP, etc, but in truth as I only use IEMs the audible differences are negligible after I stop listening for them. But, I like the **experience** of using the S1 and W2 more...
conrad.ray
New Head-Fier
I haven't updated any firmware yet. Does the new firmware 1.0.0.10 change or improve the sound for iPhone, Macbook / AAC? I am not using MQA or lossless, only Apple Music or Spotify streaming.
I guess it should be possible to downgrade the firmware as well?
I guess it should be possible to downgrade the firmware as well?
conrad.ray
New Head-Fier
Ok tried it anyway. Although I listened to the old firmware for just a few hours, seems 1.0.0.10 made the sound leaner / brighter, which wasn’t the case till 10.0.0.8. I get the feeling bass quantity has reduced.I haven't updated any firmware yet. Does the new firmware 1.0.0.10 change or improve the sound for iPhone, Macbook / AAC? I am not using MQA or lossless, only Apple Music or Spotify streaming.
I guess it should be possible to downgrade the firmware as well?
Downgrade didn’t work for me.
Can anyone here tell me the difference of S1 vs ES100? Es100 warm is good but the layering, staging, imaging, are lackluster. Im finding an upgrade.
GiullianSN
Headphoneus Supremus
For me…4.4mm connection only.Can anyone here tell me the difference of S1 vs ES100? Es100 warm is good but the layering, staging, imaging, are lackluster. Im finding an upgrade.
what do u mean by 4.4mm only? is the sonic upgrade from es100 to s1 could be just through its 4.4mm only? the 3.5mm sounds almost the same for both?For me…4.4mm connection only.
GiullianSN
Headphoneus Supremus
Is it that a big upgrade?what do u mean by 4.4mm only? is the sonic upgrade from es100 to s1 could be just through its 4.4mm only? the 3.5mm sounds almost the same for both?
By 4.4mm I mean just to have that extra connection is the upgrade.
the sound different in that price range is not that big.
have u heard es100?Is it that a big upgrade?
By 4.4mm I mean just to have that extra connection is the upgrade.
the sound different in that price range is not that big.
Anyone tried DXD format on s1? Will it work
Where do you buy from in India?Got my s1 yesterday. Mediocre is what i can say.
jsmiller58
Headphoneus Supremus
True... but that’s like saying a Mercedes is mediocre compared to a Ferrari... Both are probably ludicrous comparisonsWhoever said that the s1 is better than an n6II, either he’s high or just got hype problems, the n6II is way superior in every way to it, I mean it’s a god damn modulate dap, and power wise it puts the s1 to sleep right away. I can understand getting hyped but still... n6II with any motherboard (I don’t own e02 thoug) is superior to s1 and ltp w1 (I haven’t tried w2 but still...)
The Audio Store .inWhere do you buy from in India?
I brought from audiostore.in. Later found that it is available on conceptkart.com also which is according to lotoo their authorised dealer. Conceptkart also have 5% welcome offer.Where do you buy from in India?
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