[Lu88]

I updated the firmware on my S1 to 1.0.0.10 but I don't seem to be able to get MQA playback as it not showing on the S1 when I'm playing MQA tracks on Tidal.

When I got my S1 it seemed to be on firmware 1.0.0.6. I then went onto Lotto's download area to do the update: https://www.lotoo.cn/english/bottom/Service/Download/Hi_Fi_Music_Player/2020/0715/95.html

From here it had firmware updates for 1.0.0.7, 1.0.0.8 and 1.0.0.10 and so I went ahead and did the update. However I read through this thread and found some notes on how to update things. One thing that stood out was the following:

To support MQA, Please update 1.0.0.8 then 1.0.0.9 in sequence
1.0.0.8
Update Driver for MQA Support
1.0.0.9
MQA Supported

There was no 1.0.0.9 though on the Lotto website. Is this the reason I am not getting MQA on the S1? I just wondered if anyone can give me some pointers on what I may need to do to sort this out?

> There was no 1.0.0.9 though on the Lotto website. Is this the reason I am not getting MQA on the S1?

No.
Due to some issues, 1.0.0.9 was removed in a few days and replaced with 1.0.0.10. The latest important note is to update to 1.0.0.8 then to 1.0.0.10 in sequence.
(Hold "Fn" key on PAW S1 and connect it to a PC/MAC, and you can see the current firmware version on the display of S1.)

Check your "Passthrough MQA" setting on your Mac Tidal app.

BTW, MQA playback does't work when S1 is connected in UAC1 mode to source device. And also EFX presets are unavailable during MQA playback on S1.

I hope these help you.

 

[Deferenz]

> There was no 1.0.0.9 though on the Lotto website. Is this the reason I am not getting MQA on the S1?

No.
Due to some issues, 1.0.0.9 was removed in a few days and replaced with 1.0.0.10. The latest important note is to update to 1.0.0.8 then to 1.0.0.10 in sequence.
(Hold "Fn" key on PAW S1 and connect it to a PC/MAC, and you can see the current firmware version on the display of S1.)

Check your "Passthrough MQA" setting on your Mac Tidal app.

BTW, MQA playback does't work when S1 is connected in UAC1 mode to source device. And also EFX presets are unavailable during MQA playback on S1.

I hope these help you.

Thank You! I found the Passthrough MQA and switched it on. I now have MQA on my S1

 

[musicday]

Thanks for the advice. Could you please explain why the W1 is better?

Sorry only have experience with S1 and S2 that I own at the moment.
Forget the W1, just get the S1 if you cannot afford the W2. Forgive the confusion.

 

[shootertwist]

Hi guys, I have a Dragonfly Red and I would especially like to improve the SQ. I was just thinking of buying the Lotoo S1 or the L&P W1. Would I get a real improvement with these dongles? Which one do you recommend?

I have both dragonfly red and mojo and recently the lotoo paw S1 and its no contest for me, S1 is definitely better than the dfr. I’m not surprised some people compared this to the mojo. For me too mojo is still the reference when it comes to size=performance and i have bought it thrice in a span of several years as i always come back to it. The mojo though is just transportable and deskbound. As a dongle i‘m surprised how the S1 comes close to the mojo, in fact I even prefer the s1 when using my in-ears shure se846 and UE TF10 (yup classic trusty old gears haha) compared to the mojo. However, when it comes to my hd600 the mojo’s prowess does show and while the s1 can drive the hd600 decently, the mojo’s extra power does show when using the hd 600. Sorry for the long reply. I wish the W1 or W2 was available where i live but i don’t think its currently available.

Also with the price going way up of the W2, might just be better off getting a dedicated dap… for me the price=performance ratio of the S1 is remarkable, and the fact that it works on my iphone 12 pro max with ease using their lightning to usb c cable is just golden, especially now with apple music hi-res lossless. I wonder if they have fixed the “bitrate” not sure if its the right term, i see the s1 showing 192khz or 92khz correctly if using apple music but it seems stuck at 32b

 

[jwbrent]

Just ordered the S1, so I’m looking forward to using it with my iPad, iPhone, and Switch. Impressions to follow …

 

[jwbrent]

I presume I will need to download the latest firmware, but after visiting Lotoo’s site, I couldn’t find the firmware download. Does the manual provide a link and instructions to do this?

Update: I found a link to the firmware.

 

[Devodonaldson]

Just ordered the S1, so I’m looking forward to using it with my iPad, iPhone, and Switch. Impressions to follow …

I love using with my Switch. Actually, this is 80% the reason I bought one to use with Final audio vr iems. Wonderful expansive Soundstage MADE for gaming and videos.

 

[VideoWork]

I love using with my Switch. Actually, this is 80% the reason I bought one to use with Final audio vr iems. Wonderful expansive Soundstage MADE for gaming and videos.

Are there delays when watching videos or playing games?

 

[Devodonaldson]

Are there delays when watching videos or playing games?

Delays? No, as it's a wired DAC, AND the iems are wired as well

 

[Devodonaldson]

Are there delays when watching videos or playing games?

Final audio vr3000. They are 3.5mm with mic. Under $100 and amazing for their purpose. Media consumption gaming and video, best to me.

 

[linknet]

Updated the firmware to 1.0.0.10...
Now it only indicates 32b (never 16b or 24b)... Only the first number changes from 44K to 48K...
Does someone has an explanation ?
Thanks.
Ps. Streaming Qobuz Bit perfect through UAPP

 

[JimJim]

I updated the firmware on my S1 to 1.0.0.10 but I don't seem to be able to get MQA playback as it not showing on the S1 when I'm playing MQA tracks on Tidal.

When I got my S1 it seemed to be on firmware 1.0.0.6. I then went onto Lotto's download area to do the update: https://www.lotoo.cn/english/bottom/Service/Download/Hi_Fi_Music_Player/2020/0715/95.html

From here it had firmware updates for 1.0.0.7, 1.0.0.8 and 1.0.0.10 and so I went ahead and did the update. However I read through this thread and found some notes on how to update things. One thing that stood out was the following:

To support MQA, Please update 1.0.0.8 then 1.0.0.9 in sequence
1.0.0.8
Update Driver for MQA Support
1.0.0.9
MQA Supported

There was no 1.0.0.9 though on the Lotto website. Is this the reason I am not getting MQA on the S1? I just wondered if anyone can give me some pointers on what I may need to do to sort this out?

Not mistaken it was inside 1.0.0.8 folder the 1.0.0.9 updates

 

[jwbrent]

I presume I will need to download the latest firmware, but after visiting Lotoo’s site, I couldn’t find the firmware download. Does the manual provide a link and instructions to do this?

Update: I found a link to the firmware.

Just received my S1, however, there is no 1.0.0.9 firmware (mqa support) on Lotoo’s site. I even downloaded older versions just to make sure if it was misplaced in another folder.

Not having mqa support is not a big deal, but it may be a big deal when it comes to selling the S1 if I decide to do so in the future. I emailed Andrew to check with Lotoo, but I may be out of luck since there may not be a way to downgrade the firmware so I can upgrade the firmware in the correct sequence.

 

[jwbrent]

I plugged my Shichiku.Kangen in to check out how the S1 sounds using my iPad mini 5 as my source for Radio Paradise, and there was an alert saying the accessory device used too much power and wasn’t compatible.

I unplugged it then plugged it back in and all is good.

 

[jwbrent]

I heard back from Andrew who stated there no longer is the 1.0.0.9 update, that it proved to have problems, so it was replaced with 1.0.0.10 (too bad Lotoo didn’t update its instructions).

I tried again to update my current 1.0.0.10 with 1.0.0.8 to try the firmware process again, didn’t work.

I realize my posts likely have been covered in this thread before, so pardon any redundancy.