Lotoo PAW S1 - Designed for HIFI on the go with Lotoo PAW quality and the first USB DAC-AMP with dual 3.5mm & 4.4mm output
May 11, 2021 at 6:54 PM Post #1,938 of 2,329
Any gains are marginal. If you have a dfc and are happy, the W2 is probably an extravagance.
I have many dongles, and while I don’t have the DFC, I can see where you are coming from. Other than small differences that only show up in critical listening, we get to a point where the differences are more about user interfaces (volume buttons, LCD displays, filters), power output (especially for over ear cans), formats supported, and physical build.

Those differences can and do add up to overall user experience differences - I really enjoy using the S1 and W2 more than the S8, S9, 9038s gen3, Helm Bolt, miniDSP il-DSP, etc, but in truth as I only use IEMs the audible differences are negligible after I stop listening for them. But, I like the **experience** of using the S1 and W2 more... :)
 
May 16, 2021 at 4:55 PM Post #1,939 of 2,329
I haven't updated any firmware yet. Does the new firmware 1.0.0.10 change or improve the sound for iPhone, Macbook / AAC? I am not using MQA or lossless, only Apple Music or Spotify streaming.

I guess it should be possible to downgrade the firmware as well?
 
May 17, 2021 at 4:46 AM Post #1,940 of 2,329
I haven't updated any firmware yet. Does the new firmware 1.0.0.10 change or improve the sound for iPhone, Macbook / AAC? I am not using MQA or lossless, only Apple Music or Spotify streaming.

I guess it should be possible to downgrade the firmware as well?
Ok tried it anyway. Although I listened to the old firmware for just a few hours, seems 1.0.0.10 made the sound leaner / brighter, which wasn’t the case till 10.0.0.8. I get the feeling bass quantity has reduced.

Downgrade didn’t work for me.
 
May 17, 2021 at 10:37 AM Post #1,941 of 2,329
Can anyone here tell me the difference of S1 vs ES100? Es100 warm is good but the layering, staging, imaging, are lackluster. Im finding an upgrade.
 
May 17, 2021 at 5:18 PM Post #1,942 of 2,329
Can anyone here tell me the difference of S1 vs ES100? Es100 warm is good but the layering, staging, imaging, are lackluster. Im finding an upgrade.
For me…4.4mm connection only.
 
May 17, 2021 at 8:33 PM Post #1,943 of 2,329
For me…4.4mm connection only.
what do u mean by 4.4mm only? is the sonic upgrade from es100 to s1 could be just through its 4.4mm only? the 3.5mm sounds almost the same for both?
 
May 17, 2021 at 8:48 PM Post #1,944 of 2,329
what do u mean by 4.4mm only? is the sonic upgrade from es100 to s1 could be just through its 4.4mm only? the 3.5mm sounds almost the same for both?
Is it that a big upgrade?
By 4.4mm I mean just to have that extra connection is the upgrade.

the sound different in that price range is not that big.
 
May 17, 2021 at 8:52 PM Post #1,945 of 2,329
Is it that a big upgrade?
By 4.4mm I mean just to have that extra connection is the upgrade.

the sound different in that price range is not that big.
have u heard es100?
 
May 28, 2021 at 12:57 AM Post #1,948 of 2,329
Whoever said that the s1 is better than an n6II, either he’s high or just got hype problems, the n6II is way superior in every way to it, I mean it’s a god damn modulate dap, and power wise it puts the s1 to sleep right away. I can understand getting hyped but still... n6II with any motherboard (I don’t own e02 thoug) is superior to s1 and ltp w1 (I haven’t tried w2 but still...)
True... but that’s like saying a Mercedes is mediocre compared to a Ferrari... Both are probably ludicrous comparisons :)
 

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