Little Dot Tube Amps: Vacuum Tube Rolling Guide
Nov 8, 2022 at 11:20 AM Post #12,976 of 13,432
Nov 9, 2022 at 1:08 AM Post #12,977 of 13,432
I ask friends for advice.
I bought a Little Dot MKII with the 6ZH1P-EV and 6N23P Voskhod tubes that worked without distortion with the Philips SHP9500 headphones.
I sold the SHP9500 and bought the HiFiMan HE400SE which has distortions when I turn up the volume.
I tried it with the GE Jan 5654W and the distortion subsided, but it didn't go away.
Little Dot MKII did not come with the original valve kit.
It is set to EF95 (6J1).
I have tried every possible gain adjustment and the distortions at high volume continue.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to get rid of the distortions?
HiFiMan HE400SE works perfectly with Topping L30.
I appreciate the help.
OTL amplifiers like the Little Dot Mk II are not designed to run low impedance planar headphones like the HE400SE. You will find it works the best with headphones over 150 ohms. Your best bet would be to connect the Line Out of the Mk II to the Line In of the L30 and use the tubes as a preamp.

The Mk II just doesn't have enough current to drive the planars properly, also the output impedance is too high.
 
Nov 10, 2022 at 9:37 AM Post #12,978 of 13,432
Hello TrollDragon!
I turned on the dac on the LD2 and the pre-out of the LD2 on the L30 and the distortions really disappeared.
The sound changed little, it became enveloping, musical.
Keeping the LD2 feeding the L30 generates small gains that do not justify using the LD2 exclusively as a preamp.
Thanks for the sugestion.

I decided to install this XLR input board in the snare amplifier.
If the sound is not good I will change the cis INA137PA for the AD827AQ.
It's a low-cost bet, the alternative is to buy a new amp with original XLR inputs.

https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005003229618282.html
 
Nov 19, 2022 at 9:47 PM Post #12,979 of 13,432
I ask friends for advice.
I bought a Little Dot MKII with the 6ZH1P-EV and 6N23P Voskhod tubes that worked without distortion with the Philips SHP9500 headphones.
I sold the SHP9500 and bought the HiFiMan HE400SE which has distortions when I turn up the volume.
I tried it with the GE Jan 5654W and the distortion subsided, but it didn't go away.
Little Dot MKII did not come with the original valve kit.
It is set to EF95 (6J1).
I have tried every possible gain adjustment and the distortions at high volume continue.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to get rid of the distortions?
HiFiMan HE400SE works perfectly with Topping L30.
I appreciate the help.

Here is what I see:
Philips SHP9500
-Sensitivity 101 dB
-Impedance 32 Ohms

HIFIMAN HE400SE
-Sensitivity 91 dB
-Impedance 25 Ohms

Little-Dot MKII Power Output:
300 mW (600/300 ohm)
200 mW (120 ohm)
100 mW (32 ohm)

So really, neither of those headphones are ideal for the MKII. The MKII, being a tube amp with no output transformer (aka OTL), will put out more power into HIGHER impedance headphones, and less power into lower impedance headphones. This is the opposite of what you see in Solid-State devices, or tube amps that do have an output transformer. The reason is because low impedance requires a lot of current, while high impedance requires a lot of voltage. The MKII design can supply a lot of voltage, but not much current.

With the Philips SHP9500, you were already pushing the limit of the amp with only 100mw of power available, but at least they had a pretty high 101dB Sensitivity. Moving to the HIFIMAN HE400SE, you not only decreased impedance from 32 to 25 Ohms, but those headphones also have significantly less sensitivity at 91dB.

So, simply put, the Little-Dot MKII doesn't have enough power for those headphones. The distortion that you are hearing is almost certainly a result of clipping (soft-clipping and/or hard-clipping).

Unfortunately you don't have any great options other than to get a headphone with a higher impedance or get a different amp that is able to deliver more power into low-impedance headphones.

Compare the output of the Little-Dot MKII with the output of the Little-Dot I+ for example. The Little-Dot I+ is a hybrid tube amp that uses transistors in the output stage.

Little-Dot I+ Power Output:
150 mW (600/300 ohm)
300 mW (120 ohm)
800 mW (32 ohm)

You can see that this would give you 8 times as much power output when using your Philips SHP9500, and likely even more than that when using the HIFIMAN HE400SE. I use my Little-Dot I+ with my 24 Ohm Sony XB700 Headphones and they are a perfect match, with the Little-Dot I+ potentially putting out close to an entire watt (1000mW) at 24 ohms, and it definitely needs that power when playing bass-heavy music. I also have a Little-Dot II+, which is basically a predecessor to the MKII, also an OTL design, with similar power output to the MKII. It simply doesn't have enough power for the 24-ohm XB700 headphones, very similar to your situation with the HIFIMAN HE400SE and the MKII. I keep both amps, using the Little-Dot I+ with my low-impedance headphones, and my Little-Dot II+ with my high-impedance headphones.
 
Dec 7, 2022 at 1:29 PM Post #12,981 of 13,432

Electro Harmonix 6H30Pi EH Gold work with Littledot mk2?

In an amp designed for 6N6P you can use EH 6H30Pi (6N30Pi). My Little Dot MKIVSE was delivered with those tubes. However, I prefered to use 6N6P. But it's about synergy with the rest of the chain, music chosen and personal preferences.
 
Dec 12, 2022 at 1:36 AM Post #12,982 of 13,432
I picked up an old used Little Dot MKVI+.

It says it uses:
Driver Tubes: 2x 6H9C
Power Tubes: 4x 6080WC

This is my first tube amp, so I know nothing about tubes or socket adapters and such.

Which tubes should I get for it for a nice warm and some what dark sound signature? I am not looking to spend so much on it, so if you could kindly recommend tubers that are good value for money that would be great.
 
Dec 12, 2022 at 2:02 PM Post #12,985 of 13,432
Dec 14, 2022 at 1:56 PM Post #12,987 of 13,432
I ended up returning it as it had a buzz, noticble even when playing music.
 
Dec 15, 2022 at 1:15 PM Post #12,989 of 13,432

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