[Nachash]

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64 bit floating point refers to the instruction set your CPU uses - most modern computers will use this instruction set.  IMO this has nothing to do with file format.

Oh I see, then I'm gonna stuck with 64bit and 16bit for the dac.
 

 
 
anyway, when I first used lilith I was using this skin:
 

is there some way to view the cover?
because i can't see it...

 
even if i actually have one, i can see it in mp3tag.
 
 
edit.
 
done, i actually need to extract the cover into the folder.

 

It's unavailable now on the skin site, somebody still have it? 

 

[leeperry]

anyway, I see that the ASIO plugin of foobar was completely rewritten from scratch at the end of last year....it now even runs a standalone "ASIOhost32.exe" helper in high priority(that sends 32int), it sounds a hell less colored than uLilith fosho! I find it even more annoying that after A/B'ing a dozen times, the latest build of uLilith and that October 2011 build sound drastically different too 

 
I really don't like the GUI of foobar though, but finding a compact player that supports VST plugins, gapless playback and ASIO is easier said than done. XMPlay is great but the only way to use VST's is to use winamp DSP wrappers that work internally in 16int, duh.

 

[leeperry]

and just for the record, there's a number of ways to convert fp to int: http://www.diycalculator.com/sp-round.shtml
 
uLilith uses “Financial rounding”, also known as “Banker’s rounding” or “Round-Half-Even”.

 

[HeatFan12]

Been a while since I used uLilith and some things have changed...Been listening for a few hours and sounding good.
 
1) Are there skins nowadays that support album art?
2) Can't find the ALAC plug-in.  Is it in a codec package I missed?
 
Thanks in advance!

 

[leeperry]

No idea about skins, but if an audio file format is not natively supported it will try to find a compatible DS decoder. ALAC has recently been GPL'ed so you should be able to find one.

 

[Nachash]

New version released
http://www.project9k.jp/download/uLilith/2012-11-02_WP5Ent.zip
http://www.project9k.jp/download/uLilith/2012-11-02_x64.7z
http://www.project9k.jp/download/uLilith/2012-11-02_SSE2Diff.7z
http://www.project9k.jp/download/uLilith/2012-11-02_x86.7z
http://www.project9k.jp/download/uLilith/2012-11-02_x64Core2.7z
http://www.project9k.jp/download/uLilith/2012-11-02_Core2.7z

 

[Schonen]

You people know that ASIO is  meant for recording purposes so that there is less delay and has nothing to do with audio quality, right? I've tested ASIO, WASAPI amnd Kernel streamimng and they do not sound better than Directsound. Sorry, but it is just BS.
 
http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_out_asio
 
Please note that this component is meant for systems where ASIO is the only available output method. It is highly recommended to use the default output modes instead of ASIO. Contrary to popular "audiophile" claims, there are NO benefits from using ASIO as far as music playback quality is concerned, while bugs in ASIO drivers may severely degrade the performance.

 

[rictee]

I have been using ulilith for a few months now, impressed with the SQ compared to other players. Does anyone know if there's a changelog from the developer? It's really hard to find any info on the website which might be why so few people try ulilith.
 
EDIT: found a changelog file in the 7z download - just need to translate to English.

 

[drez]

are there any english instructions for setting up this player?

 

[kiteki]

 
Please note that this component is meant for systems where ASIO is the only available output method. It is highly recommended to use the default output modes instead of ASIO.

 
Lower latency is better than higher latency.  There are a lot more applications for ASIO than recording purposes, since very low latency can be vital in a dozen different applications, I've used it in three myself.
 
A concept in high-end audio is the pursuit of higher quality sound, you don't have to necessarily hear the difference all the time.  No one cares if you can't hear the difference in KS or ASIO since we all know that a 5ms signal is more pure than a 150ms signal.  Similarly, everyone knows that their FLAC library is more pure than their MP3 library, even if they may not hear any clear difference.
 
What we don't know is why uLilith has more efficient code than the other media players, we just know it sounds better.  You don't need to have a degree in how a blu-ray player works at the laser nanosecond level to appreciate the quality of the picture.
 
Some users are satisfied with the pursuit or perception of higher sound quality, other users need to have evidence before they actually concede to any difference, sorry we don't have evidence of ASIO or uLilith for you, just some common sense that they're more efficient and some listening skill.

 

[kiteki]

Any idea what the difference is between these two?
 

2012-11-03_x64.7z       03-Nov-2012 12:58   3.1M 

2012-11-03_x64Core2.7z  03-Nov-2012 12:58   4.6M 
 

 

[fufula]

I would say the x64Core2 one is for multi-core processor systems.

 

[Schonen]

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Lower latency is better than higher latency.  There are a lot more applications for ASIO than recording purposes, since very low latency can be vital in a dozen different applications, I've used it in three myself.
 
A concept in high-end audio is the pursuit of higher quality sound, you don't have to necessarily hear the difference all the time.  No one cares if you can't hear the difference in KS or ASIO since we all know that a 5ms signal is more pure than a 150ms signal.  Similarly, everyone knows that their FLAC library is more pure than their MP3 library, even if they may not hear any clear difference.
 
What we don't know is why uLilith has more efficient code than the other media players, we just know it sounds better.  You don't need to have a degree in how a blu-ray player works at the laser nanosecond level to appreciate the quality of the picture.
 
Some users are satisfied with the pursuit or perception of higher sound quality, other users need to have evidence before they actually concede to any difference, sorry we don't have evidence of ASIO or uLilith for you, just some common sense that they're more efficient and some listening skill.

But this discussion is about SQ and not "other" applications. There is no benefit SQ wise to using ASIO. /END

 

[kiteki]

It delivers the bits faster, so the 1's and 0's are more 1-ish and 0-ish.  Like 101110001, instead with directsound could be 101010001.

 

[drez]

But this discussion is about SQ and not "other" applications. There is no benefit SQ wise to using ASIO. /END

Just because you cant hear a difference and do not understand how a difference is possible doesn't mean a difference is not there, but you are entitled to to have an opinion as we all are. /Peace.

Kiteki its not worth trying to explain compter audio and SQ if someone has clearly already made up their mind, best to save the effort for people who will listen. You know where I stand on the issue though . What do you think about ulith i haven't tried yet, seems tricky to set up...