LH Labs Geek Out v2 Discussion Thread

[Khragon]

Still not getting go v2 purely based on lhl deceptive business practices.

 

[evillamer]

 

Original Rankings Post is here: 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/693798/thoughts-on-a-bunch-of-dacs-and-why-delta-sigma-kinda-sucks-just-to-get-you-to-think-about-stuff <--- Right here! Down the rabbit hole.

That's one side of purrin's gov2 story. The other side is a huge gov2 ad banner on his site. Not trying to throw any stones here, just to say that It's all relative

. With the exception of LH's business practices which are, as we all know, pure ...

 
If you compare the geek go v2 indiegogo funding vs all other previous lh labs projects, you know where things are going directionally....

 

[nudd]

   
If you compare the geek go v2 indiegogo funding vs all other previous lh labs projects, you know where things are going directionally....

 
You say that but in reality  would have thought any project that is funded to $200K is actually considered quite a success IMO. And there is 22 more days to go.

 

[Lonelyers]

Thread starter here.  Wow, I can't believe this thread has expanded to 17 pages.  I haven't been checking this thread very frequently, as I have been a little busy lately.  Like many others, I am really disappointed with the business practice of LH Labs.  Every time when I see their ads on webpages, their empty updates, and yet another new product released just to grab more hard-earned cash, I feel really upset.  I now have a pair of Geek Verbs lying at home and rotting; a GO100 that I don't want to use (although it sounds good, I don't really want to use it, as it brings up memories of the continued struggle with the company).  I am eagerly waiting for my Geek Pulse X which may or may not be delivered this year (I guess not), and two Geek Waves which have basically eaten up my entire year of funds on Head-fi goods (and may take another year or two before they are delivered).  Because of the experience, I lost interest in purchasing new Head-fi products, and started developing a new hobby - fountain pens.
 
I pledged for a dollar in the GO v2 preorder, but eventually decided not to pay for the so-called "early bird".  I was hoping to see if I would receive my Geek Pulse X before I had to pay for the remaining fees - as they claimed that they would only charge the fees when the GO v2s were ready for shipping.  But apparently I was too naive.  I wish that I could at least get an idea about how good Geek Pulse would sound before deciding whether to purchase a GO v2.  Well, so be it.  I have chosen not to back the GO v2.
 
I am really tired of seeing this fiasco continue.  Unless LH Labs is really able to deliver a Geek Wave that sounds so good, good enough to make me ignore all the disappointments and pain, I reckon that LH Labs has lost a customer - forever.

 

[nudd]

Lonelyers I am like you I have actually received the Geek Pulse Infinity though and I have to say it does sound very very good. Hopefully you will get your Pulse X very soon.
 
I am in the same position as you on the Wave. I backed the Wave 64 with almost all the addons and in the end I think I have paid a lot more for this than the cost of a Geek Out v2. But the Wave 64 is single ended (not balanced), so it looks like I will have a single ended Wave costing more than the Geek Out v 2.
 
Larry did say that the Wave will share a lot of the DNA of the GO V2, but I cannot help but be a bit annoyed if he has been developing this thing for 18 months without telling us, and all this time, the specs are actually BETTER than the Geek Wave which still hasn't finished development.
 
I would be interested to hear what, if anything, LHL have to say about the disparity in features between the base model Geek Wave and the base model GO v2. Especially since it looks like the Geek Wave base models are immediately obsoleted by the GO v2 before the they have even finished development.

 

[audiofrk]

@Lonelyrs

Stories like you're story is why I dislike light harmonic. There is a lot of snake oil in hifi but those people can live and learn they have the funds to do so. But light harmonic targets those that have no money to spare but want to enjoy the hobby. I fear we'll lose a lot of people interested in the hobby after they are burned by light harmonic

 

[RedJohn456]

I unsubbed from this thread awhile back so I am out of the loop about new developments. So if I were to go for a V2 or V2+ early bird perk, when can I realistically expect to get them?

 

[Lonelyers]

@Lonelyrs

Stories like you're story is why I dislike light harmonic. There is a lot of snake oil in hifi but those people can live and learn they have the funds to do so. But light harmonic targets those that have no money to spare but want to enjoy the hobby. I fear we'll lose a lot of people interested in the hobby after they are burned by light harmonic

 
Not really - Light Harmonic's target customers are not only people that "have no money to spare".  Anyone who believes their claim on "value for money" (as they claim that the product would be sold at a much higher retail price after the crowdfunding campaigns) would be attracted to them.  In addition to mid-ranged products, they are also releasing more expensive ones like "Signature Edition" and "Tube amps".
 
And don't worry about my losing interest in the hobby forever.  I may have sounded a bit too extreme - I guess this is only temporary.  (Forgive me, but I was really frustrated with this experience.)   I guess after my wallet has recovered, and after I have got over the fact that the money I pledged is lost, I would start purchasing head-fi stuff again.  Only this time, I would purchase from another brand.  And probably not from another "crowd designing" campaign.
 

  I unsubbed from this thread awhile back so I am out of the loop about new developments. So if I were to go for a V2 or V2+ early bird perk, when can I realistically expect to get them?

 
No idea, but they claim they would start shipping in August.  And they said this time it is different - because this is a presale, not a crowd designing campaign.  Not a lot of people eventually pledged for the full price, as compared with the number who pledged a dollar or two, so perhaps the shipping schedule is pushed forward.  And they also claim that they are ahead of schedule, and they have made logistics improvements.
 
But if I were you, I would expect delays.

 

[prot]

Not really - Light Harmonic's target customers are not only people that "have no money to spare".  

Looks to me that LH's target customers are some sort of buddhist monks who can take all the crap that LH throws weekly undisturbed and can wait many months (or even years!) for them to deliver ... dont wanna hear about those LH crooks ever again.
No matter how good their gear will be (debatable), their practices are far beyond anything I would consider acceptable ... and they simply keep doing it in spite of the hundreds/thousands of people who keep complaining and asking them to get serious and to keep at least some of their wild promises/claims.

 

[pearljam50000]

"$235 USD + Shipping
FEATURED
Geek Out V2 Early Bird Change Perk

Based on the awarding-winning Geek Out, Geek Out V2 (MSRP $299) paves the way for the future of the premium portable DAC &amp; headphone amplifier experience. With selectable gain settings of 1000mW &amp; 100mW, Geek Out V2 pairs perfectly with those monstrous power hungry cans or your uber sensitive IEM’s. You can now play any music on the market today from MP3's all the way up to 32/384 kHz and DSD 128 ultra-high-resolution files and it’ll sound better than you’ve ever heard through headphone

17 out of 25 claimed Estimated delivery: August 2015

Ships Worldwide"
 
 
 
Do you really think it will ship on August 2015?!
If yes, i may get it, if not, most chances are that i will not.
Can anyone answer this? thanks

 

[Khragon]

Not a chance

 

[gikigill]

It's basically the Geek Wave without the fancy bits so just might ship.

 

[520RanchBro]

I would never trust anything LH Labs says but maybe they'll turn things around. Who knows?

 

[nudd]

"[COLOR=EB1478]$235[/COLOR][COLOR=2A2A2A] [/COLOR][COLOR=A8A8A8]USD + Shipping[/COLOR]
[COLOR=EB1478]FEATURED[/COLOR]
[COLOR=2A2A2A]
Geek Out V2 Early Bird Change Perk





Based on the awarding-winning Geek Out, Geek Out V2 (MSRP $299) paves the way for the future of the premium portable DAC & headphone amplifier experience. With selectable gain settings of 1000mW & 100mW, Geek Out V2 pairs perfectly with those monstrous power hungry cans or your uber sensitive IEM’s. You can now play any music on the market today from MP3's all the way up to 32/384 kHz and DSD 128 ultra-high-resolution files and it’ll sound better than you’ve ever heard through headphone



17 out of 25 claimed
Estimated delivery: [COLOR=6A6A6A]August 2015[/COLOR]

Ships Worldwide"

Do you really think it will ship on August 2015?!
If yes, i may get it, if not, most chances are that i will not.
Can anyone answer this? thanks
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edit. typed response in wrong place.

Even if batch 1 ships August you will NOT be in batch 1. They said they managed to increase rhe 3D printing speed so they can do 150 per batch. They now have 750 orders. You do the math.

It is anyone's guess the length of time between batches but I would guess anywhere between 2 - 4 weeks best case right? So that makes it best case anywhere from 2.5 - 5 months after August. And that is assuming they stick to schedule.

 

[evillamer]

 
According to this video(4:17), geek wave is going into retail store in July 2015...........