LH Labs Geek Out v2 Discussion Thread

[Lonelyers]

 
 
According to this video(4:17), geek wave is going into retail store in July 2015...........

 
No way this is happening.  July 2016 seems more likely.  Same goes for GO v2 - don't dream about receiving yours in August 2015.  Be mentally prepared for delays.
 
And for anyone who is considering getting a USB amplifier, another campaign has just appeared on Indiegogo - at a cheaper price than GO v2.  I reckon this company deserves more support than LH Labs.
 
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dacport-hd-high-res-music-finally-affordable#/story

 

[RedJohn456]

   
No way this is happening.  July 2016 seems more likely.  Same goes for GO v2 - don't dream about receiving yours in August 2015.  Be mentally prepared for delays.
 
And for anyone who is considering getting a USB amplifier, another campaign has just appeared on Indiegogo - at a cheaper price than GO v2.  I reckon this company deserves more support than LH Labs.
 
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dacport-hd-high-res-music-finally-affordable#/story

looks likey the aped the apogee groove design, centrance that is. Plus no balanced output so thats a no go for me. Balanced is one of my requirements so GO V2 is my only option in that regard. If I am going single input I am going apogee groove otherwise as that can power stuff like HD800 on its own

 

[Khragon]

I don't think balance or not matters. I used to own Woo WA22 and couldn't tell the difference between balance and then unbalanced mode.

 

[RedJohn456]

I don't think balance or not matters. I used to own Woo WA22 and couldn't tell the difference between balance and then unbalanced mode.

It definitely matters, specifically the Sony XBA Z5 sounds best running balanced from sources such as Pono. It was made to pair with the PHA3 but I am not paying a grand for one amp/dac. So this is the next best thing

 

[nudd]

 
 
According to this video(4:17), geek wave is going into retail store in July 2015...........

They said this in January and since then Larry's R&D progress chart pdf is STILL stuck at desgning the screen.  Looking at the amount of work remaining I would be surprised if they can get it out the door in August. Even if they do they will arbitrarily prioritise certain versions. We know that from the pulse campaign.
 
And they still haven't confirmed what we ordered from the survey either.
 
I would not be surprised at all if my version which l  don't think many people would have chosen may be bumped all the way back the queue. 
 
also I would not be surprised if the retailers get lots of waves ahead of funders. Geek Outs were available through retail channels before they met their Crowd funding obligations as well.
 
Funders already paid their money and LHL can take their time screwing us over but retail = new $$$

 

[520RanchBro]

 
It definitely matters, specifically the Sony XBA Z5 sounds best running balanced from sources such as Pono. It was made to pair with the PHA3 but I am not paying a grand for one amp/dac. So this is the next best thing

That's a very matter-of-fact response with one piece of anecdotal evidence don't you think?

 

[RedJohn456]

  That's a very matter-of-fact response with one piece of anecdotal evidence don't you think?

as opposed to staying that it didn't make a different with the woo wa22 so it must not matter right?  
 
A lot of gear sounds better balanced from pono as compared to single input so it must be doing something right, balanced input i mean

 

[520RanchBro]

 
as opposed to staying that it didn't make a different with the woo wa22 so it must not matter right?  

Giving your experience (as they did) and stating something absolutely matters because of two amps/dacs you don't appear to have even listened to yet is a little bit different, wouldn't you say? Unless you have heard them at a meet? Still not a very good source for the most accurate impressions. But if it was very obvious just during a short listen at a meet, it probably does matter with that specific setup.
 
For the record, with my RE-600 IEMs, never heard much of a difference between balanced and unbalanced. Could be different with full sized headphones though, or ones that require more power.

 

[RedJohn456]

  Giving your experience (as they did) and stating something absolutely matters because of two amps/dacs you don't appear to have even listened to yet is a little bit different, wouldn't you say? Unless you have heard them at a meet? Still not a very good source for the most accurate impressions. But if it was very obvious just during a short listen at a meet, it probably does matter with that specific setup.
 
For the record, with my RE-600 IEMs, never heard much of a difference between balanced and unbalanced. Could be different with full sized headphones though, or ones that require more power.

All I said was that yes balanced does matter and it makes a difference. I have read enough about how the Z5 improves with balanced use to know that it has tangible benefits. I didn't say anything about any specific gear aside from the Pono player. So ergo, balanced does matter for me, as opposed to it not making improvements, otherwise there wouldnt be people talking about it making an improvement right? Pretty simple logic
 
The Z5 was engineered to benefit from balanced input so it might vary from iem to iem. 

 

[520RanchBro]

 
All I said was that yes balanced does matter and it makes a difference. I have read enough about how the Z5 improves with balanced use to know that it has tangible benefits. I didn't say anything about any specific gear aside from the Pono player. So ergo, balanced does matter for me, as opposed to it not making improvements, otherwise there wouldnt be people talking about it making an improvement right? Pretty simple logic
 
The Z5 was engineered to benefit from balanced input so it might vary from iem to iem. 

I guess I thought people were supposed to pass on knowledge of things they had actually heard here. But I'll let the snake oil salesmen take over. Head-Fi doesn't really like these debates.
 

 

[RedJohn456]

  I guess I thought people were supposed to pass on knowledge of things they had actually heard here. But I'll let the snake oil salesmen take over. Head-Fi doesn't really like these debates.
 

 
Calm down there champ. You sure are jumping into a conversation that doesn't even concern you with agusto. All I said that balanced matters, not if one gear is better than other. Not sure if you're having trouble with your reading comprehension? 

 

[RedJohn456]

  I guess I thought people were supposed to pass on knowledge of things they had actually heard here. But I'll let the snake oil salesmen take over. Head-Fi doesn't really like these debates.
 

Given your previous posts which clearly show that you're not happy with their business practices and you don't plan to get the V2 and telling other people how bad LH is, why are you even hanging out in the thread? :/  Whatever floats your boat I guess

 

[520RanchBro]

   
Calm down there champ. You sure are jumping into a conversation that doesn't even concern you with agusto. All I said that balanced matters, not if one gear is better than other. Not sure if you're having trouble with your reading comprehension? 

Nope, just saying that someone saying balanced matters when they haven't actually heard it and compared it for themselves is doing the community a disservice. Not debating gear at all here, just not a fan of parroting.

 

[RedJohn456]

  Nope, just saying that someone saying balanced matters when they haven't actually heard it and compared it for themselves is doing the community a disservice. Not debating gear at all here, just not a fan of parroting.

I have heard other balanced gear, just not my Z5 balanced. I auditioned the Layla and Angie straight out of an AK240 at a local store here and it had a balanced cable. So it wouldn't be accuseaccurae to say that I have heard any balanced gear. It sounded pretty good to me, so I will go with that for now. I have talked to a lot of z5 owners who have also said that balanced cabling improved their Z5 so I am not exactly going out on a limb here so... 

 

[Dithyrambes]

 
I have heard other balanced gear, just not my Z5 balanced. I auditioned the Layla and Angie straight out of an AK240 at a local store here and it had a balanced cable. So it wouldn't be accuseaccurae to say that I have heard any balanced gear. It sounded pretty good to me, so I will go with that for now. I have talked to a lot of z5 owners who have also said that balanced cabling improved their Z5 so I am not exactly going out on a limb here so... 

You should have compared the Layla and Angie, with balanced and unbalanced cables. I'm sure there is a difference, but I think this topic has been beaten to death on head-fi that it no longer has to be argued. Stick with your own prefs and your ears.