LH Labs Geek Out v2 Discussion Thread

[nudd]

If the update where they said they could increase initial batch sizes to 150 per batch is still correct, and they shipped all pre orders already that implies less than 150 pre orderers actually locked in their orders after they switched to indiegogo?

 

[uncola]

I don't think they said they shipped all preorders

 

[uncola]

edit:  nevermind
added photo to avoid zero content post

 

[audiofrk]

I was on another thread and someone brought up light harmonic business practices, stating that there essentially passing the buck(cost, risk, etc)  to consumers and that they'll keep it up till people say no more.  So I got currious about how people are responding to this type of business practices. 
 
The original kickstarter got $303,061 with 2,146 backers (delivered with about 6 months of buggy firmware)
the pulse campaign got  $1,174,000  with ??? backers    (delivered to some)
the geek wave got $1,321,851 with ??? backers             (in crowdsource hell right now)
 
the geek v2 campaign has gotten $269,537 with 904 backers
 
so it seems like people are getting feed up with the company and their rellying on backers with deeper pockets that use there stuff as secondary systems. Yay?  this company originally stated that they wanted to bring high end audio to everyone, guess that change.

 

[musicheaven]

You should keep this thread on the Geek out V2 path, if you so inclined to criticize their business practice them by all means go start your own thread on the subject.

 

[fishyee]

I don't see anything wrong with a user/owner sharing one's buying experience with the company?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Head1]

I don't see anything wrong with a user/owner sharing one's buying experience with the company?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 
 
Absolutely. I would see it as wrong not to share buying experiences, especially with regards to LH.

 

[musicheaven]

At least it was was his own buying experience and not the alleged ones of others. If that's his own opinion then fine. I would rather want hear something about the device, I think the subject of LH Labs practices have been stretched too unimmanigrable length.

 

[prot]

At least it was was his own buying experience and not the alleged ones of others. If that's his own opinion then fine. I would rather want hear something about the device, I think the subject of LH Labs practices have been stretched too unimmanigrable length.

what exactly do you expect to hear about a device that was promised but not released!?
And I beg to disagree: there is no 'alleged' part anywhere and LH's practices deserve a lot more.

 

[musicheaven]

Well, what I have seen so far they're about to be released and frankly the design really looks very good.

 

[audiofrk]

At least it was was his own buying experience and not the alleged ones of others. If that's his own opinion then fine. I would rather want hear something about the device, I think the subject of LH Labs practices have been stretched too unimmanigrable length.

I have a geek 450. I preordered the the v2 then cancelled it. I know people I've met at meets that have backed the wave and pulse that have shared their bad experiences with me. No products have been released which is what I was talking about. Since info is scarce I was just reflecting on what another member said, I posted on both since I thought it was a general comment about the company that makes sense to post and discuss.

 

[musicheaven]

First they have released products, you have a Go 450 so that's one. They have also released Pulses so you can't say in a blind statement that they haven't released anything, that would be lying.

Yes, I do have to admit hey're not the best at communicating but I do get the feeling that they are trying to accommodate, maybe not in their original timeframe, but by eventually delivering. With what I have experienced on IndieGoGo, they are not the first and surely won't be the last, with crowdfunding you've got to expect a sizable amount of risk and potential delays. Not doing so is to be purely making decisions blindfolded. I would say that if the timeframe is not to your liking to definitively avoid that kind of funding at all costs.

 

[audiofrk]

 They have also released Pulses so you can't say in a blind statement that they haven't released anything, that would be lying.

 
Wasn't a blind statement and I didn't say that they haven't released anything I said they released some of the pulses. 

  the pulse campaign got  $1,174,000  with ??? backers    (delivered to some)

 
I'm lying either it is by testimonial of the backers and their own admittance see there time table. http://lhlabs.com/downloads/updates/dianas_production_progress_chart.pdf
 
just cause you got yours doesn't mean everyone got theirs. 
 
 
anyways my original post was more for discussion than accusation.  I read nudds post about customers not minding their business practices so I got curious about whether they lost any customers or not but the original amount of bakers is no longer listed. For this reason I went with the monetary amount that they make in the campaigns and tried to explain the difference in supporters from the first campaing and its updated version (they raised similar amounts but have, very different amount of backers) by chalking it up to more expensive options being sold in the newer campaing..  

 

[prot]

In LHs defense (never thought I'll be able to say that), looks like they aren't the only ones screwing their backers http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/208625-the-kickstarter-for-shenmue-3-broke-records-because-sony-lied-to-backers.
Hope this kind of ugliness does not get too widespread, would be a shame to have a great idea like kick&co wasted on the usual marketing fog of lies.

 

[aarontyson]

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