LG G7 ThinQ DTS-X

Jul 4, 2018 at 7:58 AM Post #46 of 292
My G6 sounds fantastic and in Neutron it appears that there is no upsampling as I see files as 16bit 44.1kHz. But yes, if I didn't get the G6 recently I would totally grab the G7, but be careful, LG drop their prices. Not 2 months after I picked up my G6 on a 2 year contract with Virgin Mobile, the G6 dropped by over $400. I was not happy, bad timing, but still, a company should never do that. As it is now I will never buy another LG flagship until it has been out close to a year, just not worth it. The specs are never so far away that the previous model isn't still very close on most things.
My G6 doesn't upsample either because it doesn't have the quad dac, just a regular one that doesn't sound better than my laptop.. :(
 
Jul 4, 2018 at 9:26 AM Post #47 of 292
My G6 doesn't upsample either because it doesn't have the quad dac, just a regular one that doesn't sound better than my laptop.. :frowning2:
Most DACs are actually quite competent and really shouldn't affect the sound very much unless they are poorly implemented. That may suggest that the DAC section in your laptop is actually decent enough. A Quad DAC isn't be default going to sound better, it just sounds great for marketing purposes. I would bet in multiple trial, blind listening tests people couldn't tell a Quad from a single DAC (assuming both are properly implemented and the volume was exactly level matched).
 
Jul 4, 2018 at 1:45 PM Post #48 of 292
Most DACs are actually quite competent and really shouldn't affect the sound very much unless they are poorly implemented. That may suggest that the DAC section in your laptop is actually decent enough. A Quad DAC isn't be default going to sound better, it just sounds great for marketing purposes. I would bet in multiple trial, blind listening tests people couldn't tell a Quad from a single DAC (assuming both are properly implemented and the volume was exactly level matched).
I think their reason for having a "quad" dac was to completely eliminate any interference from the rest of the phone, so when you plug in, there is no feedback at all.
 
Jul 4, 2018 at 2:27 PM Post #49 of 292
Most DACs are actually quite competent and really shouldn't affect the sound very much unless they are poorly implemented. That may suggest that the DAC section in your laptop is actually decent enough. A Quad DAC isn't be default going to sound better, it just sounds great for marketing purposes. I would bet in multiple trial, blind listening tests people couldn't tell a Quad from a single DAC (assuming both are properly implemented and the volume was exactly level matched).

The "Quad" part of it may be to sound good for marketing purposes, but it is clearly above and beyond most built-in phone or laptop DACs. You can actually A-B between letting the Qualcomm chip do the digital to analog conversion and the Sabre "Quad" DAC and experience the night and day difference. Not trying to get a get into a big DAC debate, important to remain skeptical and not get caught up in marketing, just saying from experience using it that it is not an inconsequential experience.
 
Jul 4, 2018 at 8:22 PM Post #50 of 292
The "Quad" part of it may be to sound good for marketing purposes, but it is clearly above and beyond most built-in phone or laptop DACs. You can actually A-B between letting the Qualcomm chip do the digital to analog conversion and the Sabre "Quad" DAC and experience the night and day difference. Not trying to get a get into a big DAC debate, important to remain skeptical and not get caught up in marketing, just saying from experience using it that it is not an inconsequential experience.
Blind listening comparisons? I'm not suggesting that it can't be better, but I find people really over-emphasize the differences a DAC makes. There are very, very experienced members who have owned plenty of DACs who will freely admit they find it almost impossible to tell one DAC from another so I certainly remain skeptical, but willing to keep an open mind for sure. From a personal anecdote, recently I owned the well respected NAD M51, Chord Mojo and the little upstart iFi iOne at the same time. I took about a week comparing and try as I might if I did think, and I emphasize think, that I heard a difference, it was so minor that I couldn't be entirely sure. I sold the more expensive DACs and kept the iFi as it sounded fantastic. Again, I am not saying there can't be differences, but night and day hasn't been my experience with well designed DACs.
 
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Jul 23, 2018 at 3:53 PM Post #51 of 292
Blind listening comparisons? I'm not suggesting that it can't be better, but I find people really over-emphasize the differences a DAC makes. There are very, very experienced members who have owned plenty of DACs who will freely admit they find it almost impossible to tell one DAC from another so I certainly remain skeptical, but willing to keep an open mind for sure. From a personal anecdote, recently I owned the well respected NAD M51, Chord Mojo and the little upstart iFi iOne at the same time. I took about a week comparing and try as I might if I did think, and I emphasize think, that I heard a difference, it was so minor that I couldn't be entirely sure. I sold the more expensive DACs and kept the iFi as it sounded fantastic. Again, I am not saying there can't be differences, but night and day hasn't been my experience with well designed DACs.

This is generally true, but in this case there are some other aspects in play: the LG phones with the Quad DAC also have a better than average headphone amplifier as well, which is part of the DAC IC. Add to that the amp is capable in aux and high impedance mode of outputing higher output voltages and power than most other phones, difficult to drive headphones can sound better too.

Finally, most phones use the indifferent built in DAC on the Qualcomm IC, which is in the same silicon as the processor. Not an ideal environment for audio, and the signal is going through what appears to be a low power and lower than ideal quality ASRC (Asynchronous Sample Rate Converter) which converts all audio to 48kHz 16 bit. The LG, in the right mode, uses the original sample rate or converts properly. This with the higher power amp, can chew through your battrry life, but does sound noticably better.
 
Jul 31, 2018 at 6:40 AM Post #52 of 292
Thought I would check in to see what everyone's experience with the battery was like. I'm currently on the V20 for the past two years and was trying to hold off on upgrading until the V40 was released. Unfortunately my battery performance on the V20 has become intolerable the past few months. I have multiple batteries and have factory reset the device several times and my performance is still terrible. Maybe 1.5-2 hours of screen on time. The phone has massively suffered from some new corporate apps I have been forced to install. Colleagues with more current phones do not have the same issues that I do.

I guess my question is for those who upgraded from the V20 or V30, are you glad you made the jump or wish you had held out for the V40?
 
Jul 31, 2018 at 9:32 AM Post #53 of 292
Thought I would check in to see what everyone's experience with the battery was like. I'm currently on the V20 for the past two years and was trying to hold off on upgrading until the V40 was released. Unfortunately my battery performance on the V20 has become intolerable the past few months. I have multiple batteries and have factory reset the device several times and my performance is still terrible. Maybe 1.5-2 hours of screen on time. The phone has massively suffered from some new corporate apps I have been forced to install. Colleagues with more current phones do not have the same issues that I do.

I guess my question is for those who upgraded from the V20 or V30, are you glad you made the jump or wish you had held out for the V40?

Battery life on the V30 was really great. I now have the G7 which was not as great at first. But the more you use it, the more it learns your usage and stabilizes itself.

Depending on your usage, you can also get a wireless charger online for cheap to top it off throughout the day.
 
Jul 31, 2018 at 7:19 PM Post #54 of 292
Does it have an independent EQ for Bluetooth? I mean, in my wife's S7 it saves the EQ settings for Bluetooth and keep them different for the 3,5 jack. I'd like to EQ my M2s because I think the internal dac of these headphones sounds a bit muddy. I usually bump the highs a bit when using Bluetooth while walking.
 
Aug 1, 2018 at 8:28 AM Post #55 of 292
Hello friends.Today I am a LG g7 owner and I am very happy. I hear beautiful sounds on this phone.Where is the high impedance mode. I looked, but I could not find it.I am using uapp with tidal.
 
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Aug 4, 2018 at 11:49 AM Post #56 of 292
Aug 7, 2018 at 9:46 AM Post #59 of 292
Happy owner of a G7 for a week now. Been testing it against my Pioneer XDP-300R today and it performs just perfectly. You can even choose the DAC filter setting. Will keep my DAP because of the balanced connection, but damn... I think this phone can make any standalone DAP obsolete if you're using 3.5mm output only.

AMA btw
 
Aug 7, 2018 at 5:52 PM Post #60 of 292
Does anybody know if there is a G7 version without the Quad-Dac?
In one month i change my smarphone for free and i'm a bit worried because the G6 sold in my country (Chile) doesnt have the hi-fi dac and not even wireless charge.

I'm reading in the stores' websites from here but they only show the basic specs.
 

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