[Nimweth]

With all the recent posts about the BA10 I was expecting a post from @Podster. We have not heard from him for a while, hope he is OK.

 

[requal]

I've read on many reviews that the ASX and ASF have recessed mids.
If that is the case why are vocals so forward?

I think that's why I like them both so much, becasue I enjoy singer/songwriter music.
I don't understand graphs and equalizer settings too much, but I thought vocals were firmly within the "mids".

I have Asx and Asf too. My impresions are also different to how they looks on graph. Definitely not recessed midrange, and not bassy or dark. Asf has more lows ofc, but not as much as bass monster like ZAS.
I need to admit that, I have good deep seal, and those are comfortable for me.

 

[RikudouGoku]

Just noticed that the EDX Pro and the NRA have a similar looking DD

EDX Pro

NRA

 

[paulwasabii]

So for our pokemon collectors, the EDX Pro is finally on Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003199660801.html

$8 USD for non mic version! $9 for the mic version!

How do these guys break even?!
The graph is a bit wonky though, assuming the store provided graph is legit. The high sensitivity with lowish impedance may also mean it may be a hissy IEM.

The original KZ EDX did not have a KZ supplied graph but here is what I have. When my Pro arrives, I will re-measure both. Looking at the Pro graph, I do wonder if they gave the Pro the same bass "enhancement" as the ZAS.

 

[Podster]

With all the recent posts about the BA10 I was expecting a post from @Podster. We have not heard from him for a while, hope he is OK.

Hey Nim, appreciate the well wishes. Been busy with life as they say with third son entering college this year I've curbed my audio purchasing but still enjoying all the wares I have Now remember we all hear these things a little different but for me my BA10's are still my favorite all BA iem and as you know I have quite a few (and more costly). The BA10 at least for me is the most balanced, even distribution of freq's across the board period. I've got 6 BA and even 12 BA units that just don't have the cohesion that the BA10 has (unfortunately for KZ the tiny toaster shape prevented a good seal for certain ear shapes) , like the Hybrid ZS7 where KZ finally hit the mark on that shell design and tuning of course I remind you once again just Pod's opinion. I see KZ is still putting out some fine looking pieces and I may break come 11/11 and at least give one new issue a try

Still to this day I think this $8 wonder is the best sub $10 iem eva (But what do I know)!

 

[Nimweth]

Hey Nim, appreciate the well wishes. Been busy with life as they say with third son entering college this year I've curbed my audio purchasing but still enjoying all the wares I have Now remember we all hear these things a little different but for me my BA10's are still my favorite all BA iem and as you know I have quite a few (and more costly). The BA10 at least for me is the most balanced, even distribution of freq's across the board period. I've got 6 BA and even 12 BA units that just don't have the cohesion that the BA10 has (unfortunately for KZ the tiny toaster shape prevented a good seal for certain ear shapes) , like the Hybrid ZS7 where KZ finally hit the mark on that shell design and tuning of course I remind you once again just Pod's opinion. I see KZ is still putting out some fine looking pieces and I may break come 11/11 and at least give one new issue a try

Still to this day I think this $8 wonder is the best sub $10 iem eva (But what do I know)!

Nice to hear from you, glad all is well! I have to agree with you on all three counts, BA10 is best all BA IEM, ZS7 the best KZ hybrid and ED9 takes some beating at the price!

 

[SpaceOperaVillain]

Just noticed that the EDX Pro and the NRA have a similar looking DD

EDX Pro


NRA

I wonder why they didn't use the XUN.

 

[paulwasabii]

Or maybe the EDX Pro is closer to the CCA CA2

 

[Nimweth]

I wonder why they didn't use the XUN.

They do look similar but the EDX has a dual magnet and the NRA has a triple magnet design.

 

[Podster]

Well like Mr. Mom says, 220/221 (Dual/Triple Magnet) "Whatever it takes" I've always found it amazing how two totally different iem's from size/shape, driver appointment to tuning can sound so much alike. That's just from the the iem standpoint before you even get to source, file type and dare I say (Say, Say) ones own ears

Here's a true story for all my KZ fans, let's travel back to 2015 when I probably purchased 12-15 pair of ED9's which I immediately converted 8 close friends from Apple Buds (standard issue with Apple phones at the time), the Black Box (probably Maxell) Buds or the horrid Skull Candies Just to watch them get a proper seal then see their eyes get wide and jaws drop were all the confirmation I ever needed to confirm the ED9 was a very BIG leap for my(no make that all) of my music listening friends Even though a few of them have moved on and up they still thank me for opening their eyes (more like ears) but you get the gist

 

[Barusu Lamperouge]

Hey Nim, appreciate the well wishes. Been busy with life as they say with third son entering college this year I've curbed my audio purchasing but still enjoying all the wares I have Now remember we all hear these things a little different but for me my BA10's are still my favorite all BA iem and as you know I have quite a few (and more costly). The BA10 at least for me is the most balanced, even distribution of freq's across the board period. I've got 6 BA and even 12 BA units that just don't have the cohesion that the BA10 has (unfortunately for KZ the tiny toaster shape prevented a good seal for certain ear shapes) , like the Hybrid ZS7 where KZ finally hit the mark on that shell design and tuning of course I remind you once again just Pod's opinion. I see KZ is still putting out some fine looking pieces and I may break come 11/11 and at least give one new issue a try

Still to this day I think this $8 wonder is the best sub $10 iem eva (But what do I know)!

For me still there aren't any IEM that can match ED9 for $8-10. They conveniently blow past the competition. Certainly is in my top 3 KZs along side BA10 and ZSN.

 

[Podster]

For me still there aren't any IEM that can match ED9 for $8-10. They conveniently blow past the competition. Certainly is in my top 3 KZs along side BA10 and ZSN.

True dat and even stranger to me was how so many were either the Gold nozzle (my fave) or the Brass nozzle as their fave, once again supporting my feeling we all do hear them just a little different depending on ones own hearing abilities and thresholds Heck I'll bet my 3rd favorite will probably throw most of you off completely! Love mine so much that I bought both colors so my right would be red and left be black (I might also add the best fitting KZ to date actually one of the best fitting iem's for me eva) Some found these dark but my remedy was a nice silver core to bring them imho to full potential Of course like all things audio ymmv I could easily be stranded on a deserted island (with a solar charger of course) with this rig!

 

[Barusu Lamperouge]

True dat and even stranger to me was how so many were either the Gold nozzle (my fave) or the Brass nozzle as their fave, once again supporting my feeling we all do hear them just a little different depending on ones own hearing abilities and thresholds Heck I'll bet my 3rd favorite will probably throw most of you off completely! Love mine so much that I bought both colors so my right would be red and left be black (I might also add the best fitting KZ to date actually one of the best fitting iem's for me eva) Some found these dark but my remedy was a nice silver core to bring them imho to full potential Of course like all things audio ymmv I could easily be stranded on a deserted island (with a solar charger of course) with this rig!

Truly YMMV. Ultimately it's all means to enjoy music whatever works. Retro KZ is still very much competent nowadays despite all the improvement and development in drivers, tuning and technology.

 

[baskingshark]

For me still there aren't any IEM that can match ED9 for $8-10. They conveniently blow past the competition. Certainly is in my top 3 KZs along side BA10 and ZSN.

Sony MH755 would like to have a word with you hahaha.

But TBH the MH755 is bottlenecked by the super short microphonic fixed cable. And it is very hard to find a legit set in the wild now.

 

[baskingshark]

The original KZ EDX did not have a KZ supplied graph but here is what I have. When my Pro arrives, I will re-measure both. Looking at the Pro graph, I do wonder if they gave the Pro the same bass "enhancement" as the ZAS.

Thanks man, look forward to your Pro review and comparisons.

TBH I see a 15 dB pinna gain on the store provided graphs of the KZ EDX Pro and that seriously frightens me.