Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Sep 20, 2017 at 10:36 AM Post #21,841 of 64,385
Hi fellow Head-fiers,

This is my very first post here, but I am lurking in the KZ thread for more than a year hence I have collected some of the chi-fi iems like ATE, ZN1 mini, ED9, ED3c Acme, EDR1 & 2 and reviews of the ZS5 convinced me to get them from GB. It has been a while since I have ordered them, so I got v.1 with 1BA in the nozzle.

After +100 hours of the listening to the ZS5 (just a little burn-in, but I am not a true believer if u know what I mean) I have started to notify that it produces some kind of bloated bass without force of bass drum and also recessed mids with unnatural (maybe holographic is the right word) vocals. So a started to think that I have to give them away. The decision was made after one night - I am going to open it (grills, backs everything…). The one BA in the nozzle was closer to the grill on the left side than on the another side. No big deal since it wasn’t in contact with the grill. Anyway… I opened up backs and removed the inside tape (which preventing a socket contact with a smaller DD) mainly because it prevents driver from proper “breathe” in my case. Then I desoldered wires from the socket and soldered it back with use of heat shrink tubing. Inspirited by the ZS6 back vents I drilled backs from the ZS5 and used 3M car foil from the drawer on the flat area of the backs. Then glued tuning foam from VE Monks+ to inside of the backs and voilà ZS5 v1 modded.

Hearing test & some thoughts…

Mids are no longer recessed with more natural female vocals and also bass really kicks in with a precise of a hammer. The bass is definitely not overwhelming and bloated as before. The DDs needed to breathe properly, but unfortunately the shell was almost sealed off in the original design. Long story short the modded ZS5 v.1 produces nice open sound with better mids and more precise bass with higher dynamics as it supposed to.

Btw. In my modest opinion the mod itself can almost vanish the potential sound differences between ZS5 and ZS6. Metal shell could change sound purity but who knows… Time and reviews will tell… Cheers :ksc75smile:

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QUmNUfe.jpg


vC8adiT.jpg



Edit: links
 
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Sep 20, 2017 at 11:03 AM Post #21,842 of 64,385
Hi fellow Head-fiers,

This is my very first post here, but I am lurking in the KZ thread for more than a year hence I have collected some of the chi-fi iems like ATE, ZN1 mini, ED9, ED3c Acme, EDR1 & 2 and reviews of the ZS5 convinced me to get them from GB. It has been a while since I have ordered them, so I got v.1 with 1BA in the nozzle.

After +100 hours of the listening to the ZS5 (just a little burn-in, but I am not a true believer if u know what I mean) I have started to notify that it produces some kind of bloated bass without force of bass drum and also recessed mids with unnatural (maybe holographic is the right word) vocals. So a started to think that I have to give them away. The decision was made after one night - I am going to open it (grills, backs everything…). The one BA in the nozzle was closer to the grill on the left side than on the another side. No big deal since it wasn’t in contact with the grill. Anyway… I opened up backs and removed the inside tape (which preventing a socket contact with a smaller DD) mainly because it prevents driver from proper “breathe” in my case. Then I desoldered wires from the socket and soldered it back with use of heat shrink tubing. Inspirited by the ZS6 back vents I drilled backs from the ZS5 and used 3M car foil from the drawer on the flat area of the backs. Then glued tuning foam from VE Monks+ to inside of the backs and voilà ZS5 v1 modded.

Hearing test & some thoughts…

Mids are no longer recessed with more natural female vocals and also bass really kicks in with a precise of a hammer. The bass is definitely not overwhelming and bloated as before. The DDs needed to breathe properly, but unfortunately the shell was almost sealed off in the original design. Long story short the modded ZS5 v.1 produces nice open sound with better mids and more precise bass with higher dynamics as it supposed to.

Btw. In my modest opinion the mod itself can almost vanish the potential sound differences between ZS5 and ZS6. Metal shell could change sound purity but who knows… Time and reviews will tell… Cheers :ksc75smile:

assembly_1_zpsjhprmzh1.jpeg

assembly_1_detail_zpsdi82ybd5.jpeg

new_covers_assembly_zps8rdfetch.jpeg

final_mod_1_zpsi6quceak.jpeg

final_mod_2_zpssuay8gth.jpeg

The images don't load for me...?

Sounds ingenious though!
 
Sep 20, 2017 at 11:15 AM Post #21,843 of 64,385
They are source sensitive. Generally, it seems that if you have a clean source with plenty of driving power, they sound better.

Some people are listening to them with less than stellar sources and coupled with their sometime inconsistent quality control, it makes for some pretty varied responses to them it seems.

Totally agree! Lot of times ppl reviewing items forgot to mention their sources etc.

Just picked up my KZ Ate from the post office and man - they sound AWFUL! No bass or mids whatsoever, only some very sharp highs.

Tried them on my iPhone 6s where my Rock Zircon and Einsear T2 perform wonderfully!

Is there some easy newbie-mistakes I might be making with these? The fit snugly and everything :frowning2:

Definitely faulty unit! ATE should have great mids and bass.
 
Sep 20, 2017 at 12:04 PM Post #21,845 of 64,385
Well, on PC it looks ok, but on android it shows somethin with premium (never used photobucket before so...) Anyway I edited the post and added a link to my library on photobucket :call_me:
Sorry to say but it still doesn't work...

You should try Imgur!

https://imgur.com/

Free, utterly simple, and fast.
 
Sep 20, 2017 at 12:20 PM Post #21,846 of 64,385
Hi fellow Head-fiers,

This is my very first post here, but I am lurking in the KZ thread for more than a year hence I have collected some of the chi-fi iems like ATE, ZN1 mini, ED9, ED3c Acme, EDR1 & 2 and reviews of the ZS5 convinced me to get them from GB. It has been a while since I have ordered them, so I got v.1 with 1BA in the nozzle.

After +100 hours of the listening to the ZS5 (just a little burn-in, but I am not a true believer if u know what I mean) I have started to notify that it produces some kind of bloated bass without force of bass drum and also recessed mids with unnatural (maybe holographic is the right word) vocals. So a started to think that I have to give them away. The decision was made after one night - I am going to open it (grills, backs everything…). The one BA in the nozzle was closer to the grill on the left side than on the another side. No big deal since it wasn’t in contact with the grill. Anyway… I opened up backs and removed the inside tape (which preventing a socket contact with a smaller DD) mainly because it prevents driver from proper “breathe” in my case. Then I desoldered wires from the socket and soldered it back with use of heat shrink tubing. Inspirited by the ZS6 back vents I drilled backs from the ZS5 and used 3M car foil from the drawer on the flat area of the backs. Then glued tuning foam from VE Monks+ to inside of the backs and voilà ZS5 v1 modded.

Hearing test & some thoughts…

Mids are no longer recessed with more natural female vocals and also bass really kicks in with a precise of a hammer. The bass is definitely not overwhelming and bloated as before. The DDs needed to breathe properly, but unfortunately the shell was almost sealed off in the original design. Long story short the modded ZS5 v.1 produces nice open sound with better mids and more precise bass with higher dynamics as it supposed to.

Btw. In my modest opinion the mod itself can almost vanish the potential sound differences between ZS5 and ZS6. Metal shell could change sound purity but who knows… Time and reviews will tell… Cheers :ksc75smile:

assembly_1_zpsjhprmzh1.jpeg

assembly_1_detail_zpsdi82ybd5.jpeg

new_covers_assembly_zps8rdfetch.jpeg

final_mod_1_zpsi6quceak.jpeg

final_mod_2_zpssuay8gth.jpeg


Edit: Shared link to album on photobucket:
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/ReBreaker_CZ/library/
This sounds great. Wish I could see the photos.
 
Sep 20, 2017 at 12:25 PM Post #21,848 of 64,385
I have pair of kz zs6, Im a bit late to the KZ party. After buying a pair of zs5 that had a problem with a rattling driver in the left piece I asked to have them changed for the zs6. I'm liking them so far, I can say that they are pretty well balanced only if the fitting is tight, if its a bit loose the mid lows just go away and they become the famous "highs cannon" people talk about. Any questions about them? The problem I had with the sz5 was very subtle specially in a song from Queens of the stone age, the fuzz solo in burn the witch just made the left piece rattle like crazy. The sz6 are completely fine there. BTW I got a preoder special with a "golden" cable the have angled connectors in the IEMs, they have longer legs and sit flush to the pieces, they don't "go in." The cable I think made an audible difference and compared to the silver cable feels a bit more "premium." Still i would have prefered metal connectors and metal plugs. but for 300rm (about 45usd) Ill say I'm pretty satisfied.
 
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Sep 20, 2017 at 12:50 PM Post #21,851 of 64,385
Got the ES3. Soundwise these seem fine but the shape creates a hotspot in my ear as soon as I use them. Seems I need to be more aware of sizes and shapes of IEMs before I buy them.
Interesting, I get hot spots with ZS5.. I can lay on my side work ES3.
 
Sep 20, 2017 at 12:58 PM Post #21,852 of 64,385
Sep 20, 2017 at 1:00 PM Post #21,853 of 64,385
Hi fellow Head-fiers,

This is my very first post here, but I am lurking in the KZ thread for more than a year hence I have collected some of the chi-fi iems like ATE, ZN1 mini, ED9, ED3c Acme, EDR1 & 2 and reviews of the ZS5 convinced me to get them from GB. It has been a while since I have ordered them, so I got v.1 with 1BA in the nozzle.

After +100 hours of the listening to the ZS5 (just a little burn-in, but I am not a true believer if u know what I mean) I have started to notify that it produces some kind of bloated bass without force of bass drum and also recessed mids with unnatural (maybe holographic is the right word) vocals. So a started to think that I have to give them away. The decision was made after one night - I am going to open it (grills, backs everything…). The one BA in the nozzle was closer to the grill on the left side than on the another side. No big deal since it wasn’t in contact with the grill. Anyway… I opened up backs and removed the inside tape (which preventing a socket contact with a smaller DD) mainly because it prevents driver from proper “breathe” in my case. Then I desoldered wires from the socket and soldered it back with use of heat shrink tubing. Inspirited by the ZS6 back vents I drilled backs from the ZS5 and used 3M car foil from the drawer on the flat area of the backs. Then glued tuning foam from VE Monks+ to inside of the backs and voilà ZS5 v1 modded.

Hearing test & some thoughts…

Mids are no longer recessed with more natural female vocals and also bass really kicks in with a precise of a hammer. The bass is definitely not overwhelming and bloated as before. The DDs needed to breathe properly, but unfortunately the shell was almost sealed off in the original design. Long story short the modded ZS5 v.1 produces nice open sound with better mids and more precise bass with higher dynamics as it supposed to.

Btw. In my modest opinion the mod itself can almost vanish the potential sound differences between ZS5 and ZS6. Metal shell could change sound purity but who knows… Time and reviews will tell… Cheers :ksc75smile:

0kjb6U9.jpg


3Vge1Zu.jpg


ym0LpLl.jpg


QUmNUfe.jpg


vC8adiT.jpg



Edit: links
Yay looks amazing.. I wanna try!
 
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